Live Weekly Demo | Led by a Rev Workflow Specialist
Save Your Spot
CT v. Cooper Ouellette Day 1

CT v. Cooper Ouellette Day 1

Cooper Ouellette faces charges in the death of Sophie Ringquist, day one. Read the transcript here.

Cooper Ouellette faces charges in the death of Sophie Ringquist, day one.
Hungry For More?

Luckily for you, we deliver. Subscribe to our blog today.

Thank You for Subscribing!

A confirmation email is on it’s way to your inbox.

Share this post

Copyright Disclaimer

Under Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.

Chris Watson (00:00):

Morning, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (00:00):

Morning, everybody. Have a seat.

Chris Watson (00:00):

Morning, Your Honor.

David Clifton (00:00):

Morning, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (13:32):

All right. Can counsel identify themselves for the record, please?

Chris Watson (13:34):

Morning, Your Honor. Chris Watson for the State.

David Clifton (13:35):

Morning, Your Honor. David Clifton for the State.

Martin Minella (13:37):

Martin Minella for the defendant.

Jon Raad (13:40):

Jon Raad for the defendant.

Chris Pelosi (13:40):

All right.

(13:40)
Good morning, Mr. Ouellette.

(13:42)
All right, have a seat, ladies and gentlemen. Before we begin, I want to remind counsel for both sides of their obligations under Rule 3.6 of the professional conduct and Connecticut Practice Book 42-48 concerning trial publicity. The court's ordering that, according to 42-48, entitled Cautioning Parties and Witnesses, "Whenever appropriate in the light of the issues in the case or its notoriety, the court may direct the parties, their counsel, and the witnesses not to make statements relating to the case or the issues in the case, or dissemination by any means of public communication. Counsel must refrain from making statements outside the courtroom that they know, or reasonably should know, will be publicly disseminated, and will have a substantial likelihood of materiality prejudicing this proceeding. This obligation applies to statements to the press and to other communications, including social media.

(14:35)
"The jury must decide this case solely on the evidence admitted in court and the court's instructions. Counsel should keep that principle firmly in mind when considering any public comment about the case. This is a reminder of your existing professional obligations, including the limited exception in Rule 3.6(b) for responding to certain prejudicial publicity."

(14:56)
With that said, I just want to do some recapping, here. Prior to the jury coming out and its introduction to the jury, the court had asked counsel relative to an instruction, if they want me to, or if counsel wants me to comment that the defendant may or may not testify in this case, an accused person has the option to testify or not testify at the trial. Under no obligation to testify is a constitutional right to testify. You cannot draw any unfavorable inferences from his choice not to testify.

(15:27)
Do you want that instruction, Attorney Minella?

Martin Minella (15:29):

Yes, Your Honor, I do.

Chris Pelosi (15:30):

Okay.

(15:31)
Relative to sequestration, 42-36, I know we've met in chambers about this issue.

(15:37)
Does the State want to put anything on the record relative to that?

Chris Watson (15:40):

As it pertains to the sequestration order, we have addressed that sequestration order with all the witnesses that we intend on calling at trial. And what we've indicated to them is they're not to discuss their testimony with any other witness after they testify, or before they testify, and they are not to watch any of the live stream of this trial before they testify.

Chris Pelosi (15:58):

Appreciate that.

(15:59)
Attorney Minella?

Martin Minella (15:59):

Yes, Your Honor. And I have told the State and the State's attorneys that we have no objection to after the mother testifies... of the decedent, for her to remain in the courtroom.

Chris Pelosi (16:15):

Thank you, Attorney Minella. Appreciate that.

(16:17)
All right. Relative to delivery of alcohol to a minor, Count II, I had supplied or submitted my instruction to counsel last week. I didn't hear anything from counsel. That's what I intend at this point to instruct the jury on.

Martin Minella (16:34):

We have no objection [inaudible 00:16:36].

Chris Pelosi (16:36):

Okay.

(16:37)
Relative to the decedent's family, Sophie's family, when they're put under oath, obviously we should just ask for their initial of their last name.

(16:49)
Does the State want to be heard on that?

Chris Watson (16:51):

No, but I thank you for that.

Chris Pelosi (16:53):

Counsel?

Martin Minella (16:53):

No, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (16:54):

All right.

Martin Minella (16:55):

How should we address, for example, the mother? By her last name?

Chris Pelosi (17:00):

No, we're not using her last name. You could say Ms. R. or L.R.

(17:06)
Do you want to agree what you want to call Ms. R?

Chris Watson (17:09):

I don't think she'll have an objection to Defense Counsel calling her Lynn. I think that'll probably be easier.

Chris Pelosi (17:15):

Lynn?

Martin Minella (17:16):

Calling her Lynn?

Chris Pelosi (17:17):

Yeah. That's her name. Okay?

Martin Minella (17:20):

Thank you [inaudible 00:17:20].

Chris Pelosi (17:20):

I appreciate that.

(17:21)
And finally, earlier this week, October 23rd, my clerk... thank you, Attorney Ferriola, sent out an email that the jurors are going to be addressed by number and initials, and the process will be as follows: The clerk is going to provide a juror a number. The number's going to correspond to the order they're selected. The clerk is going to write that number and the juror's initials on paper. For example, Juror Number 1 will be the initials MS. Each juror will get the slip of paper with their number and initial on it. The clerk will inform the jurors before the trial that this is how they're going to be referred to on the record. The jurors' names are going to be sealed for seven days following the end of the trial. Has that been complied with, Attorney Ferriola?

Attorney Ferriola (18:02):

Yes, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (18:02):

The State or Defense want to hear anything on that?

Chris Watson (18:05):

No.

Martin Minella (18:06):

No, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (18:07):

All right.

(18:08)
And finally, if there are any jury instructions that the parties want to submit, I encourage you to do that as soon as possible. Not the standard ones, so forth. Any special instructions? The court will be sending out a rough draft, a very rough draft, by the end of the day today.

Martin Minella (18:27):

We will do that by, hopefully, tomorrow, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (18:30):

Thank you. All right.

(18:33)
Anything else from the State?

Chris Watson (18:34):

Yes, just briefly. The State has complied with its Giglio obligations. There's no materials that need to be turned over to Defense. We've also complied with the obligation to run a criminal record on any witness that we will be calling. There is nothing to disclose in that manner. Previous to the trial, this past Monday, we met with all of defense counsel in our office. We went over every exhibit that we're going to enter into evidence. We have an agreement on the majority of those exhibits. We're going to have them pre-marked for identification, and by agreement, marked as full so that we don't have to go back and forth to the clerk. So with that being said, I think that's it.

Chris Pelosi (19:13):

I appreciate that, Attorney Watson.

David Clifton (19:15):

[inaudible 00:19:15] full exhibits. We've gone over everything that was provided by the State, and we agree to that.

Chris Pelosi (19:21):

All right. I appreciate that cooperation between the parties.

Chris Watson (19:24):

I will also indicate that, as I normally do, we have given the names of all the witnesses that we intend on calling. We have disclosed to defense counsel the witnesses we will be calling today, and I will let defense counsel know the witnesses we're calling the next several days so that they don't have to prepare additional witnesses other than the ones that we're calling.

Chris Pelosi (19:42):

Thank you again, Attorney Watson.

Martin Minella (19:43):

We will also supply, at the proper time, the list of witnesses [inaudible 00:19:49].

Chris Pelosi (19:50):

All right. And with that said, I'm going to just anticipate and tell the jurors the schedule. We anticipate to end evidence on or about November 10th or November 9th, maybe sooner.

Chris Watson (20:04):

Yes.

Chris Pelosi (20:05):

Okay.

(20:06)
All right. That's what I'll tell them. All right. And jury deliberations are going to be up to them.

Martin Minella (20:09):

Thank you.

Chris Pelosi (20:09):

All right.

(20:09)
Attorney Ferriola?

Chris Watson (20:09):

Yes.

Martin Minella (20:09):

The defense is, Your Honor.

Chris Watson (20:30):

Yes. And I would just remind both defense counsel and co-counsel for myself that, if you wish to have conversations that don't want to be recorded, you need to hit the red button.

Martin Minella (20:40):

I directed Attorney Raad that, Your Honor. Thank you.

Chris Pelosi (20:43):

Attorney Raad has that, right?

Jon Raad (20:45):

Yes, Your Honor.

Martin Minella (20:45):

You got the [inaudible 00:20:47].

Chris Pelosi (20:47):

All right. Thank you.

(20:48)
Let's bring the jury in.

Martin Minella (20:49):

Thank you, Your Honor.

Chris Watson (20:52):

And do we have standing permission to walk through the well?

Chris Pelosi (20:54):

Absolutely.

Chris Watson (20:55):

Thank you.

Chris Pelosi (21:38):

Again, before the jury comes out, I know it's quick. Sophie R. is going to be referred to as "the decedent" or "Sophie R."?

Martin Minella (21:45):

Correct, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (21:46):

Okay? We're not going to use the word "victim" at this point.

Martin Minella (21:48):

I understand that, Your Honor. Your Honor, one other housekeeping before they come out. Do you require us, when we are addressing the witness, to always be standing up?

Chris Pelosi (22:05):

I do.

Martin Minella (22:06):

Okay.

Chris Pelosi (22:07):

Unless there's a health issue or physical issue that-

Martin Minella (22:11):

No, Your Honor. I just wanted to make that clear.

Chris Pelosi (22:12):

All right. Unless there's a physical issue or any type of issue that-

Martin Minella (22:16):

Age.

Chris Pelosi (22:17):

Age? You have permission.

Martin Minella (22:19):

Thank you, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (22:20):

You're welcome.

Chris Watson (22:44):

Judge, I've had all of the State's exhibits placed on one thumb drive. That thumb drive is in the possession of Inspector Apicella. And once we place an item into evidence and it's a full exhibit, it'll be accessing a thumb drive to digitally display it on the monitors --

Chris Pelosi (22:58):

Thank [inaudible 00:22:58].

Chris Watson (22:58):

-- instead of a physical exhibit.

Chris Pelosi (23:00):

Appreciate that. All right. One, two, three, four, five, five, six. All right. Would the parties stipulate to the presence of the jury?

Martin Minella (23:53):

Yes, Your Honor.

Chris Watson (23:54):

State does.

Chris Pelosi (23:55):

All right.

(23:55)
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Have a seat. Make yourself comfortable. Again, I just want to introduce myself. I'm Chris Pelosi, and I want to thank you again for your service. The first order of business that we're going to do today is that, our clerk, Attorney Ferriola, is going to take the role and have you sworn in. Thank you.

Attorney Ferriola (24:20):

Ladies and gentlemen, when your number and initials are called, please indicate your presence by answering, "Here," then rise and remain standing.

(24:27)
Juror Number 1, MS.

Juror 1 (24:29):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (24:30):

Juror Number 2, BJ.

Juror 2 (24:32):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (24:33):

Juror Number 3, PC.

Juror 3 (24:34):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (24:35):

Juror Number 4, JR.

Juror 4 (24:37):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (24:38):

Juror Number 5, MG.

Juror 5 (24:40):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (24:40):

Juror Number 6, CS.

Juror 6 (24:43):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (24:44):

Please raise your right hands. Do you solemnly swear or solemnly and sincerely affirm, as the case may be, that you will, without respect of any persons or favor of any person, decide this case between the State of Connecticut and the defendant, based on the evidence given in court and on the laws of the state, as explained by the judge, that you will not talk to each other about this case until instructed to do so, that you will listen and consider what other jurors have to say in deliberations about this case, that you will not speak to anyone else or allow anyone else to speak to you about this case until you have been discharged by the court, and that, when you have reached a decision, you will not disclose the decision until it is announced in court, so help you God, upon penalty of perjury?

Jurors (25:23):

I do.

Attorney Ferriola (25:25):

Thank you. You may be seated.

(25:28)
Ladies and gentlemen, when your number and initial are called, please indicate your presence by answering, "Here," then rise and remain standing.

(25:35)
Juror Number 7, JF.

Juror 7 (25:37):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (25:39):

Juror Number 8, PK.

Juror 8 (25:39):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (25:41):

Juror Number 9, AM.

Juror 9 (25:43):

Here.

Attorney Ferriola (25:43):

Please raise your right hands. Do you solemnly swear or solemnly and sincerely affirm, as the case may be, that if you become a member of the jury in this case, you will, without respect of any persons or favor of any person, decide the case between the State of Connecticut and the defendant, based on the evidence given in court and on the laws of the state, as explained by the judge, that you will listen to and consider what the other jurors have to say in deliberations about this case, that you will not speak to anyone else or allow anyone else to speak to you about this case until you have been discharged by the court, and that, when you reach a decision, you will not disclose the decision until it is announced in court, so help you God, or upon penalty of perjury?

Jurors (26:18):

I do.

Attorney Ferriola (26:19):

Thank you. You may be seated.

Chris Pelosi (26:20):

Thank you. Have a seat.

(26:22)
Before I address the jury, I do want to tell everybody, at this point, if you do have a cell phone, to not put it on silent, but to turn it off. Obviously, there's a record being made and it's significant to the parties, the defense, as well as the State, so I appreciate that.

(26:43)
All right, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, my remarks at this time are to generally acquaint you with some of the legal principles that will control your deliberations, and give you an idea how the trial is going to proceed, how long it's expected to take, and what our daily schedule is going to look like. You'll get detailed instructions of law at the end of the trial before you begin your deliberations.

(27:05)
This is a criminal case. The State has brought charges against Mr. Ouellette as follows: Count I, State's Attorney Christian Watson and Senior Assistant State's Attorney David Clifton accuses Cooper Ouellette of manslaughter in the first degree and charges that, on May 20th, 2023, in the town of Burlington, at or near Fieldview Drive, the said, Cooper Ouellette, under circumstances evincing an extreme indifference to human life, recklessly engaged in conduct which created a grave risk of death to another person, and thereby caused the death of another person.

(27:40)
To whip, Cooper Ouellette provided alcohol to Sophie and engaged in assaultive behavior towards Sophie, and operated a motor vehicle recklessly with Sophie as an occupant, and unlocked Sophie's passenger-side door while the car was in motion, and Sophie separated from the passenger side of the car, and as a result of that separation, Sophie received crushing injuries, misconducts in violation of 53A-55(a)(3) of the Connecticut general statutes.

(28:10)
Count II, the State's attorneys further charge Cooper Ouellette of delivery of alcohol to a minor, and charges that, on May 20th, 2023, in the village of Terryville at the Schultz Corporation, the said, Cooper Ouellette, delivered alcoholic liquor to a minor, misconduct's in violation of Connecticut General Statutes 30- 86(b)(2).

(28:36)
Again, ladies and gentlemen, the information, what I just read, is not evidence. It's merely the formal means of accusing a person of a crime and bringing him to trial. You must not consider it as any evidence of the guilt of the defendant or draw any inference of the guilt because the defendant has been arrested and formally charged. Each charge against the defendant is set forth in the information as a separate count, and you must consider each count separately in deciding this case. Manslaughter in the first degree, as I stated, is in violation of 53A-55(a)(3). The statute defining this offense reads, in pertinent part, as follows: A person is guilty of manslaughter in the first degree when, under circumstances evincing an extreme indifference to human life, he recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to another person, and thereby causes the death of another person.

(29:33)
For the defendant to be found guilty of this charge, the State must prove the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt: Element 1, conduct created a grave risk of death. The first element is that the defendant engaged in conduct that created a grave risk of death.

(29:50)
Element 2, recklessness. The second element is that the defendant acted recklessly. A person acts recklessly with respect to a result or circumstance when he is aware of, and consciously disregards, a substantial and unjustifiable risk that such result will occur, or that such circumstances exist.

(30:12)
Element 3, extreme indifference to human life. Third element is that the defendant's conduct demonstrated an extreme indifference to human life. "Indifference" means simply not caring. It means lacking any interest in a matter, one way or the other. "Extreme" means existing in the highest or greatest possible degree. "Extreme indifference" is more than ordinary indifference. It is synonymous with "excessive", and is the greatest departure from the ordinary. What evinces an extreme indifference to human life is a question of fact.

(30:47)
Element 4, cause death. The fourth element is that the defendant caused the death of Sophie R. This means that the defendant's conduct was the proximate cause of the decedent's death. You must find it proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Sophie R. died as a result of the actions of the defendant.

(31:06)
In conclusion, the State must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that, one, the defendant engaged in conduct that created a grave risk of death; two, the defendant acted recklessly; three, he acted under circumstances evincing an extreme indifference to human life; and four, the defendant caused the death of Sophie R. If you unanimously find that the State has proved beyond a reasonable doubt each of the elements of the crime of manslaughter in the first degree, then you shall find the defendant guilty. On the other hand, if you unanimously find that the State has failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt any of the elements, you shall find the defendant not guilty.

(31:51)
Count II, delivery of alcohol to a minor. The defendant is charged in Count II with delivery of alcohol to a minor. The statute defining this offense reads, in pertinent part, as follows: A person is guilty of delivery of alcohol to a minor when such person gives alcoholic liquor to a minor by any means. For you to find the defendant guilty of this charge, the State must prove the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt: Element 1, gives alcoholic liquor. First element is that the defendant willfully gave alcoholic liquor to Sophie R., who was a minor. The term "give" has its ordinary meaning. "Willfully" means intentionally or deliberately. Element 2, alcoholic liquor. Second element is that the defendant delivered or gave alcoholic liquor to Sophie R. "Alcoholic liquor" is defined by statute, and includes alcohol, spirits, beer and wine and every liquid or solid, patented or not, containing alcohol, spirits, beer and wine incapable of being consumed by a human being for beverage purposes. The definition does not apply to any liquid or solid containing less than one-half percent of alcohol by volume. Element 3, provided to a minor. Third element is, at the time of the defendant's conduct, Sophie R. was under the age of 21 years of age. That means Sophie R. had not had her 21st birthday when the alleged conduct took place.

(33:14)
So in conclusion, the State must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that, one, the defendant gave alcoholic liquor to a minor, and that the minor was under the age of 21. If you unanimously find that the State has proved beyond a reasonable doubt each of the elements of the crime of delivery of alcoholic liquor to a minor, you should find the defendant guilty. On the other hand, if you unanimously find that the State has failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt any of the elements, you shall find the defendant not guilty.

(33:51)
Every defendant in a criminal case is presumed to be innocent, and this presumption of innocence remains with the defendant throughout the trial, unless and until he is proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden is on the State...

Chris Pelosi (34:00):

Proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden is on the state to prove the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and the burden of proof never shifts throughout the trial. Unless you find at the conclusion of all the evidence that the state has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant has committed every element of an offense, you must find him not guilty of that offense. On the other hand, if you're satisfied that the evidence establishes the guilt of the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt, you should not hesitate to find him guilty. The defendant may or may not testify in this case. An accused person has the option to testify or not to testify at the trial. He is under no obligation to testify. He has a constitutional right not to testify. You must draw no unfavorable inferences from the defendant's choice not to testify.

(34:50)
The procedure of the trial is as follows. After I finish this instruction, the state's going to present evidence. Then the defendant may present evidence. The defendant has no legal obligation to present evidence. The law does not require a defendant to prove his innocence or to produce any evidence. If the defendant does present evidence, the state may then present rebuttal evidence if it so chooses. When all the evidence has been presented to you, the lawyers will make their final arguments to you. Please bear in mind that argument is not evidence. You may consider argument of counsel during your deliberation, but it's not evidence. Under all rules, the state argues first, then the defendant through counsel argues and the state argues a second time, but the defendant does not argue a second time. Each counsel is given the same amount of time for argument. It's only the state that breaks the argument into two parts.

(35:45)
When arguments are completed, I will then instruct you as to the law that you must apply in this case. At the conclusion of the instructions, I will send you to the jury room to begin your deliberations. That is the first time you will discuss this case with anyone. Up until that time, you will not discuss this case with anyone, not even each other. Once deliberations start, deliberations must be conducted in the jury room only when all the jurors are present. When you deliberate, you apply the facts that you find to the law as I instruct you to reach in your verdict. Your verdict must be unanimous. My responsibility as judge is to conduct the trial of this case in an orderly, fair, and efficient manner, to rule on questions of law arising during the trial and to instruct you as to the law that applies to this case.

(36:35)
It is your duty to accept the law as I stated to you, whether you agree with it or not. My actions during the trial in ruling on claims or objections by counsel and comments to counsel and questions to witnesses or in setting forth the law and instructions to you are not to be taken by you as any indication of my opinion as to how you should determine the issues of fact. If you come to believe during the trial that I have expressed any opinion as to the facts, you should disregard it. As I've told you, my job as a judge is to ensure that there is a fair trial so that you can decide the case. During the course of the trial, I may occasionally ask a question of a witness. Please don't assume that I hold any opinion on the matter to which my questions may relate.

(37:22)
Remember at all times that you as jurors are at liberty to disregard all comments or questions of the court and the witness's responses to those questions in arriving at your own findings as to the facts. You must not take anything I say or do during the trial as indicating what I think of the evidence or what your verdict should be. Your function as the jury is to determine the facts. You are the sole and exclusive judges of the facts and you alone determine the weight, the effect and the value of the evidence as well as the credibility of the witnesses. You must consider and weigh the testimony of all the witnesses who appear before you and you alone and to determine whether to believe any witness and to the extent to which any witness should be believed. It is your responsibility to resolve any conflicts and testimony that may arise during the course of the trial and to determine where the truth lies.

(38:18)
You are entitled in the course of evaluating the evidence to draw any and all inferences that you find reasonable and logical from the evidence you hear. You will decide what the facts are from the evidence that's going to be presented in this courtroom. That evidence will consist of the testimony of witnesses, documents, and other material admitted into evidence as exhibits, and any facts on which the lawyers agree or that I instruct you to accept. The following are not evidence. You must not consider them as evidence in deciding the facts of this case. Statements and arguments by the lawyers, questions and objections of the attorneys, testimony that I instruct you to disregard. There's two kinds of evidence, direct evidence and circumstantial evidence. Direct evidence is testimony by a witness about what that witness personally saw or heard or did. Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence. That is, it's evidence from which you can infer another fact. By way of example, you wake up at the morning and see that the sidewalk is wet, you may infer that it rained during the night.

(39:22)
The wet sidewalk is circumstantial evidence that it rained. However, other evidence may provide another explanation for the water on the sidewalk such as a garden hose that was left on overnight. So before you decide that the fact has been proved by circumstantial evidence, you must consider all the evidence in light of reason, experience, and common sense. In deciding this case, you can consider both direct and circumstantial evidence. The law permits you to give equal weight to both, but it's up to you to decide how much weight to give to any evidence. Some evidence may be admitted for a limited purpose only. When I instruct you that a piece of evidence has been admitted for a limited purpose, you can consider it only for that purpose and for no other.

(40:08)
In deciding the facts of this case, you are the sole judges of the credibility of the witnesses. You will have to decide which witnesses to believe and which witnesses not to believe. You may believe everything a witness says or only part of it or none of it. Every witness starts on an equal basis. You are to listen to all of them with an open mind and judge them by all the same standards. Police officials will be testifying in this case. Again, you must determine the credibility of a police official in the same way and by the same standards as you would evaluate the testimony of any other witness. The testimony of a police official is entitled to no special or exclusive weight merely because it comes from a police official. You should recall their demeanor on the stand and manner of testifying and weigh and balance it just as carefully as you would the testimony of any other witness.

(40:54)
You should neither believe nor disbelieve the testimony of a police official just because they are a police official. During the course of the trial, counsel for either party may object to a question asked by the other lawyer. It's the responsibility of counsel to object to evidence which he believes is not properly admissible and you should not be prejudiced in any way against a lawyer who makes these objections. When that happens, I will rule on that objection. If I sustain the objection, you will not hear the answer to the question and you should not wonder why it was asked or speculate as to what an answer might be. If I overrule an objection, you will hear the answer to the question and you can give it whatever consideration you feel it is entitled to. There may be times when counsel or the court may ask you to be excused when arguments or objections are made. Those arguments often include matters of evidence that the court may eventually exclude.

(41:51)
The reason that I ask you to step out is to assure that you will not hear evidence that is not properly admissible and not to keep from you evidence that you should hear. A few moments ago, you took an oath that's going to govern your conduct as jurors between the time you took that oath and the time that you were discharged by me after you rendered a verdict in this case. That oath and the rules of court obligate you to do certain things and to avoid other things, and I want to go over those obligations with you now. First, you must decide this case based only on the evidence presented here in court and on the law as I explained it to you. Second, do not make up your minds about what your verdict will be until after you've heard all the evidence, heard the closing arguments of the attorneys, my instructions in the law, and after that, you and your fellow jurors have discussed the evidence. Keep an open mind until that time.

(42:49)
Some rules flow from those obligations that I want to go over now. You can't perform any investigation or research or experiment of any kind on your own, either individually or as a group. Don't go to dictionaries for the meaning of words or encyclopedias for general information on the subjects of this trial. Don't look up anything on the internet concerning information about the case or any of the people involved, including the defendant, the witnesses, the lawyers, or the judge. Do not get copies of any statutes that may be referred to in court today. Do not go to the scenes or any of the events that are the subject of this trial took place or use internet maps or Google Earth or any other program or device to search for or view any place discussed during this case. And why is that? Because the parties have a right to have the case decided only on evidence they know about and that has been introduced here in court.

(43:47)
If you do some research or investigation or experiment that we don't know about, your verdict may be influenced by information that has not been tested by the oath to tell the truth and by cross-examination. Same thing is true of any media reports you may come across about the case or anybody connected to this case. If you do come across any reports in the newspaper, TV, internet, you cannot read or watch them because they may refer to information not introduced here in court or they may contain inaccurate information. If you are accidentally exposed to such information, do not discuss it with your fellow jurors and notify the clerk in writing.

(44:29)
You may not discuss the case with anyone else, including anyone involved with this case until the trial is over and they've been discharged as jurors. Anyone else includes members of your family, your friends, coworkers. If you wish, you can tell them you're serving as a juror, but you may not tell them anything else about the case until it's over. You may not talk to any of the court personnel such as marshals and clerks about the case. You may not ask friends you have who are lawyers or law enforcement personnel for advice or information about any matters related to this case. Again, why is that? Because they haven't heard the evidence you've heard and in discussing the case with them, you may be influenced in your verdict by their opinions and that would be not fair to the parties and it may result in a verdict that is not based on evidence and the law.

(45:18)
You may not communicate to anyone any information about the case by any means, including but not limited to texting, emailing, internet, and social media. Both the defendant and the state are entitled to a fair trial rendered by an impartial jury and you must conduct yourself so as to maintain the integrity of the trial process. When you've rendered a verdict and have been dismissed by the court, you're free to discuss the case with anyone you wish, though remember you're not required to. Until then, you must be focused solely on the evidence presented in the courtroom and your obligations to the fairness of the proceeding. In addition, you may not talk to each other about the case until I tell you to do so, and that will not be until you've heard all the evidence, you've heard closing arguments, and you've heard my instructions on the law that you are to apply to this case.

(46:05)
And why is that? It may only seem natural that you would talk about the case as it's going on. The problem with that is when people start discussing things, they take positions on them and express opinions which are often hard for them to change later on. So if you're permitted to discuss the case while it's going on, you might reach conclusions or express opinions before you've heard all the evidence or heard the final arguments or heard the law that you must apply in the case. Your verdicts in this case might then be improperly influenced by the conclusions or opinions you or your fellow jurors have reached before you knew about all the evidence or the law that will help you put the evidence in proper context for your deliberations and verdicts. So what happens if these rules are violated by a juror? In some cases, violation of the rules of juror conduct have resulted in hearings after trial at which jurors have to testify about their conduct. In some cases, the verdict of the jury has been set aside and a new jury or new trial has been ordered because of jury misconduct. So it's really important you abide by these rules. If someone should attempt to talk to you, please report it to the clerk immediately. If you see or hear anything of a prejudicial nature or that you think might compromise the proper conduct of this trial, please report it to the clerk immediately. These communications have to be in writing. Do not discuss any matters with your fellow jurors.

(47:33)
In deciding whether the defendant is guilty or not guilty, you should not concern yourselves with the punishment or potential consequence in the event of a conviction. This is a matter exclusively within the function under the limitations and restrictions imposed by statute. You are to find the defendant guilty or not guilty, uninfluenced by the possible punishment or consequence that may follow conviction. You should not be influenced by any sympathy for the defendant, the defendant's family, the decedent, the decedent's family, or for any other person who might in any way be affected by your decision. As I indicated earlier, your verdict has to be based on evidence introduced in court and my instructions on the law. Our system of justice depends on judges like me and jurors like yourself making careful, unbiased, and fair decisions. During our interactions with other people, it's not unusual for us to group or categorize people.

(48:27)
Sometimes this involves negative or positive biases or prejudices, which may be conscious or unconscious. Such preferences or biases, whether they are conscious or unconscious, have no place in the courtroom or your deliberations where our goal is to treat all parties equally and to arrive at a just, fair, and unbiased verdict. All people deserve fair treatment in our system of justice, regardless of their race, national origin, religion, age, disability, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, education, income level, or any other personal characteristic. Techniques that you can use as jurors to check whether any unconscious biases are influencing you include slowing down and examining your thought processes thoroughly to identify where you may be relying on reflexive gut reactions and to consider whether you're making assumptions that have no basis in the evidence. Ask yourself whether you would view the evidence differently if the parties or attorneys had different personal characteristics. In sum, your task is to render a verdict based on facts drawn only from the evidence introduced in the courtroom and my instructions on the law and not based on prejudice or bias for or against any person or party involved in the trial. You may, if you wish, take notes during the course of the trial. You're not required to take notes, even if all of your fellow jurors do. I got to emphasize a few ground rules for note-taking. Notes are a sound tool to help you refresh your recollection during your deliberation. However, notes by themselves are not foolproof.

(50:14)
If there's a conflict between your notes and your recollection, it is your recollection that must prevail. Also, if there's a conflict between your recollection and the notes of a fellow juror, it is your recollection that prevails. Your notes are not evidence. You recall my earlier definition of what constitutes evidence. Your verdict must be based exclusively on evidence presented at trial and the principles of law given to you in my final instructions. The note-taking process should not distract you from focusing on the witnesses because the credibility you ascribe to a witness is crucial.

(50:49)
It is essential that you do not allow note-taking to interfere with or to impede your ability to view the witness, to listen to him or her, and to size him or her up, and that is to properly evaluate the witness. You should not be so preoccupied with taking notes that you overlook what the witness is saying and how the witness is saying it. You may find that note-taking may distract you from giving full attention to a witness. You will need to observe the demeanor of a witness while he or she is testifying. You are able to get testimony played back to you during your deliberations so you don't need to make your own record of exactly what is said. There's no need to try to take a lot of notes or to take down the testimony word for word. You may not make or modify any notes outside this courtroom.

(51:35)
At the end of the day, the pads are going to be collected and kept by a court-martial. No one's going to look at them. Whatever notes you take are confidential. You are not to exchange or discuss your notes with your fellow jurors during the trial itself. You may discuss your notes if you choose during the deliberation phase. Just as you cannot discuss or deliberate this case among yourselves until the case has been completed, so too, you cannot exchange or discuss your notes until the trial has been completed. There's no requirement, of course, that you take notes. That's an option to be exercised by each of you individually. Those of you who elect not to take notes will be no less conscientious than the jurors who do take notes.

(52:19)
The juror who takes few or no notes should not permit his or her individual recollection to be influenced by a juror whose notes may differ from that recollection. Notes are only a tool and not always accurate. Don't assume a voluminous note taker is taking notes that are necessarily more accurate. I take notes because I may be asked to rule on issues during the course of the evidence. Your decision whether to take notes at any point should not be influenced by my note-taking. Finally, notwithstanding note-taking by you and your fellow jurors, do not hesitate to seek a reading of any portion of the testimony if you deem it essential during your deliberations. All right, so I think we went over this during jury selections. The lawyers have informed me that the evidentiary portion should be concluded maybe by November 6th, maybe earlier. Okay? And that's only an estimate, may go longer, may go shorter. I'm going to definitely keep my best to keep you up to date of any trial adjustments, all right? Once the evidence is presented and the case is presented to you for deliberations, again, deliberations is up to you. We're going to begin 10:00 sharp every day. There's an hour lunch and a morning recess of 15 minutes and an afternoon recess of 15 minutes to get a stretch, okay? During the trial, any communication you wish to make with me has to be in the form of a note. It's going to be read to the lawyers and the parties and made part of the record.

(53:51)
If you have a question, write it down, give it to the marshal, and they'll bring it to me or Attorney Ferriola. Now, it's inevitable that there's going to be some delays during the trial. Unanticipated things always happen. When there's an unavoidable delay, I'm going to report it to you that we've been delayed. However, I'm going to keep things moving as best as I can at a steady pace. When you take breaks, the marshals, the clerk, Attorney Ferriola will assist you in addressing any needs that you have. I hope you have an idea what to expect and what our daily schedule looks like. With that said, we're going to hand out notebooks. Stephanie will tell you where to put your name or initials. Are we all set with the notebooks, ladies and gentlemen? All right. All affirmed yes. So ladies and gentlemen, with those comments, please attend to the evidence. State, you can call your first witness.

Attorney Watson (55:44):

State will be calling Lynn R.

Chris Pelosi (56:53):

Okay, I got it. Come on up here, Miss. Sorry. Good morning. We're going to refer to you as Lynn R. Okay?

Lynn R. (56:54):

Okay.

Chris Pelosi (56:54):

We're just going to have you raise your right hand.

Speaker 1 (56:56):

Do you solemnly swear, solemnly, sincerely affirm as the case may be that the evidence you shall give concerning the case and our questions will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God, under penalty of perjury?

Lynn R. (57:04):

I do.

Speaker 1 (57:06):

And please state your first name and only initial of your last name.

Lynn R. (57:08):

Lynn R.

Speaker 1 (57:09):

And just please state your town of residence.

Lynn R. (57:11):

Arlington.

Speaker 1 (57:12):

Thank you.

Chris Pelosi (57:12):

Thank you, Lynn R. Have a seat. Make yourself comfortable. It's a really, really big courtroom, so I apologize. I could tell you may be soft-spoken, so if you could speak into a microphone a little louder because there's a record being made, so I would appreciate that. Thank you. State?

Attorney Watson (57:30):

Thank you. Good morning.

Lynn R. (57:31):

Morning.

Attorney Watson (57:32):

Can you please tell us about your educational background?

Lynn R. (57:35):

I got my BS in education from Central Connecticut State University, 27 years.

Attorney Watson (57:43):

Okay. And I'm going to show you what has been marked as State's Exhibit Two. It's a full exhibit, and it should populate on your screen. And can you see that on your screen?

Lynn R. (58:33):

I can.

Attorney Watson (58:38):

And in looking at that photograph, can you please use the mouse that I'm going to give you and describe or point to where you live on Fieldview Drive? Thank you, sir. And may the record reflect, Your Honor, the witness is using the mouse, and the mouse pointer is at the bottom of Fieldview Drive near the left. There's a long driveway to our house is.

Chris Pelosi (59:07):

Record so reflect.

Attorney Watson (59:10):

And do you have a long driveway that leads to your house off of Fieldview Drive?

Lynn R. (59:12):

I do.

Attorney Watson (59:15):

And can you please use the mouse and show us where Johnnycake Mountain Road is?

Lynn R. (59:20):

Right here.

Attorney Watson (59:21):

May the record reflect-

Chris Pelosi (59:22):

I'll let you do the reflecting.

Attorney Watson (59:24):

Thank you. May the record reflect the witness is pointing to what is indicated on the exhibit as Johnnycake Mountain Road.

Chris Pelosi (59:31):

Top portion middle, yes.

Attorney Watson (59:33):

Thank you.

Chris Pelosi (59:33):

Record will reflect that.

Attorney Watson (59:35):

Now, from Johnnycake Mountain Road, what road do you have to turn onto in order to get onto Fieldview Drive?

Lynn R. (59:40):

Holly Dan.

Attorney Watson (59:41):

Polly Dan? And may the record reflect she's pointing at Polly Dan Road?

Chris Pelosi (59:45):

Record will reflect.

Attorney Watson (59:53):

Now, can you please use the mouse and indicate where you would turn from Polly Dan in order to get to Fieldview Drive?

Lynn R. (01:00:01):

Right here.

Attorney Watson (01:00:03):

Okay. Thank you. May the record reflect she's gone all the way down Polly Dan Road on the exhibit, starting in the middle right-hand corner, going down to the upper left-hand corner to where it intersects with Fieldview Drive.

Chris Pelosi (01:00:14):

Record will reflect that.

Attorney Watson (01:00:17):

I would take it you have traveled Polly Dan Road numerous times in order to get to your house?

Lynn R. (01:00:21):

I have.

Attorney Watson (01:00:22):

Okay. And is there a dip in the roadway on Polly Dan Road as you are traveling on it towards your house?

Lynn R. (01:00:27):

There is.

Attorney Watson (01:00:28):

Okay. And can you please show us where the dip in the roadway is?

Lynn R. (01:00:30):

Right here.

Attorney Watson (01:00:32):

And may the record reflect she is basically in the middle of Polly Dan Road from where you turn off of Johnny Cake Mountain Road, and on the exhibit, there is an indication that there is a dip in the roadway there and she's pointing at it.

Chris Pelosi (01:00:46):

Record so will reflect that.

Attorney Watson (01:00:49):

And that dip in the roadway, are there houses in that area?

Lynn R. (01:00:53):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:00:55):

Now, once you turn out to Polly Dan, what is the quickest way to get to your house on Fieldview Drive?

Lynn R. (01:01:00):

Take a left.

Attorney Watson (01:01:01):

Onto Fieldview Drive?

Lynn R. (01:01:02):

Onto Fieldview Drive.

Attorney Watson (01:01:05):

And in looking at that map that's depicted there in front of you, can you please tell us if it takes longer to get to your house on Fieldview Drive, if you just keep going down Polly Dan and loop all the way around?

Lynn R. (01:01:16):

It takes longer, yes.

Attorney Watson (01:01:21):

Now, in looking at that map, I'm going to point to an area and I'll reflect where I'm pointing. I am at the end of Polly Dan Road where it is indicated at the top of the exhibit in the upper left-hand corner. In this area that I'm pointing to, Lynn, is this area of the roadway, are there houses in this area of the roadway?

Lynn R. (01:01:43):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:01:45):

Now, are you married?

Lynn R. (01:01:46):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:01:47):

And when I ask you questions about your family, if you just remember that we're not going to indicate your last name on the record, okay?

Lynn R. (01:01:52):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (01:01:54):

And who are you married to?

Lynn R. (01:01:56):

Scott.

Attorney Watson (01:01:57):

Okay. And how long have you and Scott been married?

Lynn R. (01:02:00):

27 years.

Attorney Watson (01:02:01):

And what does Scott do for a living?

Lynn R. (01:02:03):

He owns his own construction company.

Attorney Watson (01:02:05):

And what does that company do?

Lynn R. (01:02:08):

Property preservations for different banks, cleaning out foreclosed houses.

Attorney Watson (01:02:13):

And do you and Scott have children?

Lynn R. (01:02:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:02:17):

And how many children did you have together?

Lynn R. (01:02:19):

Three.

Attorney Watson (01:02:20):

And what are the names of your children in the order of their ages?

Lynn R. (01:02:23):

Jackson, Tyler, and Sophie.

Attorney Watson (01:02:25):

And in May of 2023, how old were each of your children?

Lynn R. (01:02:30):

Jackson was 22, Tyler was 20, and Sophie was 17.

Attorney Watson (01:02:37):

And did all of your children live with you and Scott in Burlington on Fieldview Drive in May of 2023?

Lynn R. (01:02:43):

Yes. Oh, no. Tyler was in Wyoming.

Attorney Watson (01:02:46):

Okay. Which children lived with you then?

Lynn R. (01:02:50):

Jackson and Sophie.

Attorney Watson (01:02:51):

Okay. And Tyler lived where?

Lynn R. (01:02:53):

In Wyoming.

Attorney Watson (01:02:55):

Now, I'm going to show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit One. I want you to take a look at the name that is on that piece of paper and see if you recognize it along with the date of birth.

Lynn R. (01:03:03):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:03:04):

And is that the complete name of your daughter?

Lynn R. (01:03:07):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:03:08):

And is that her date of birth?

Lynn R. (01:03:09):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:03:10):

And that has already been marked as a full exhibit as well. With your permission, I pass to publish that to the jury, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (01:03:14):

You may.

Attorney Minnello (01:03:15):

Just to make the record clear, Your Honor, these exhibits have been pre-marked. Defense has no objection to them going in as a full exhibit.

Chris Pelosi (01:03:24):

Thank you, Attorney Minnello.

Attorney Watson (01:03:26):

And I have showed them all to counsel before today's proceedings. Now, so for the rest of your testimony, we're going to refer to your daughter as Sophie, okay? In May of 2023, what grade was Sophie in?

Lynn R. (01:03:49):

She was a junior.

Attorney Watson (01:03:50):

Okay. And what school did Sophie go to in May of 2023?

Lynn R. (01:03:53):

Lewis Mills High School.

Attorney Watson (01:03:55):

And besides going to school, did Sophie work?

Lynn R. (01:03:57):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:03:58):

And where did she work?

Lynn R. (01:04:00):

She was a hostess for Butchers and Bakers in Farmington, Connecticut, and she worked for my husband on the weekends.

Attorney Watson (01:04:08):

And when she worked with your husband on the weekends, what did she do?

Lynn R. (01:04:12):

Cleaned out foreclosed houses, mowed lawns, snow removal, depending on the season.

Attorney Watson (01:04:18):

And would she work with him often?

Lynn R. (01:04:20):

Whenever he had work.

Attorney Watson (01:04:22):

And did your daughter, Sophie, have a cell phone?

Lynn R. (01:04:25):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:04:26):

And did you and your husband pay for that cell phone?

Lynn R. (01:04:28):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:04:29):

‍

And did your daughter, Sophie, have a driver's license?

Lynn R. (01:04:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:04:33):

And did Sophie have a car that she normally drove?

Lynn R. (01:04:35):

A truck, yes.

Attorney Watson (01:04:37):

Okay. And what type of car was it?

Lynn R. (01:04:38):

It was a Chevy Silverado pickup truck.

Attorney Watson (01:04:41):

And do you recall the color?

Lynn R. (01:04:43):

It's a bluish gray.

Attorney Watson (01:04:45):

Okay. And while Sophie was living with you in around that time, especially of May of 2023, did you do anything to track the location of where your daughter was?

Lynn R. (01:04:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:04:57):

And what did you use in order to do that?

Lynn R. (01:05:00):

Life360.

Attorney Watson (01:05:01):

And is that an application on her phone?

Lynn R. (01:05:03):

It is.

Attorney Watson (01:05:04):

And did you have it on your phone as well?

Lynn R. (01:05:06):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:07):

And did you have access to the account?

Lynn R. (01:05:08):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:08):

Were you the account holder?

Lynn R. (01:05:11):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:13):

Did she share your location with you so you could see where she was?

Lynn R. (01:05:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:17):

And was Sophie aware of the fact that you had Life360 on her phone?

Lynn R. (01:05:21):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:22):

And did you use that application in order to see where your daughter was at certain times?

Lynn R. (01:05:26):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:27):

Now in May of 2023, did your daughter Sophie have a group of friends she would normally hang out with?

Lynn R. (01:05:32):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:33):

And did you know the majority of them?

Lynn R. (01:05:35):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:05:36):

And would she hang out with them often on the weekends and Friday nights?

Lynn R. (01:05:39):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:41):

And did your daughter Sophie wear jewelry?

Lynn R. (01:05:43):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:05:44):

And did she have any jewelry she would wear every day or did it change?

Lynn R. (01:05:48):

Mostly stayed the same.

Attorney Watson (01:05:51):

Okay. And would she wear a necklace that had the name Cooper on it?

Lynn R. (01:05:54):

She would.

Attorney Watson (01:05:55):

And are you familiar with a person named Cooper Ouellette?

Lynn R. (01:05:58):

I am.

Attorney Watson (01:05:59):

And how are you familiar with him, Lynn?

Lynn R. (01:06:01):

Sophie's boyfriend.

Attorney Watson (01:06:02):

And how long did Sophie and Cooper date each other?

Lynn R. (01:06:06):

About three, three and a half years.

Attorney Watson (01:06:09):

And in that time that they were dating, did Sophie and Cooper spend a lot of time together?

Lynn R. (01:06:12):

They did.

Attorney Watson (01:06:14):

And did Cooper Ouellette come over to your house on numerous occasions to see or pick up Sophie during the time that they were dating?

Lynn R. (01:06:21):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:06:22):

And would he come over to your house more than a hundred times?

Lynn R. (01:06:25):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:06:26):

And during those times he came over, did you have the occasion to converse with him?

Lynn R. (01:06:30):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:06:31):

And what type of vehicle did you normally see Cooper Ouellette driving when he came to your house?

Lynn R. (01:06:35):

A black pickup.

Attorney Watson (01:06:37):

And do you know where Cooper lived?

Lynn R. (01:06:39):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:06:39):

And where is that?

Lynn R. (01:06:41):

Harmony Hill Road in Harlington with his mom, and then his dad is in Burlington.

Attorney Watson (01:06:48):

Okay. And is that relatively close to your house?

Lynn R. (01:06:50):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:06:51):

And as a result of Cooper dating your daughter, did you meet Cooper's parents or family?

Lynn R. (01:06:55):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:06:57):

And what are the names of Cooper's parents?

Lynn R. (01:06:59):

Carrie and Todd.

Attorney Watson (01:07:01):

And while your daughter Sophie was dating Cooper, did you form a friendly relationship with his mother, Carrie Ouellette?

Lynn R. (01:07:06):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:07:07):

And would you talk to Carrie Ouellette about Cooper and Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:07:11):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:07:12):

And do you see Cooper Ouellette in the courtroom here today?

Lynn R. (01:07:14):

I do.

Attorney Watson (01:07:15):

And could you please tell us an article of clothing he's wearing?

Lynn R. (01:07:18):

A patchwork tie.

Attorney Watson (01:07:21):

Okay. And may the record reflect he's identified the defendant?

Chris Pelosi (01:07:23):

Record reflects he's identified the defendant.

Attorney Watson (01:07:26):

Now on the morning of May 20th of 2023, who was at your house on Fieldview Drive?

Lynn R. (01:07:33):

My husband, myself, my son Jackson, and his girlfriend, Layla.

Attorney Watson (01:07:39):

Okay. And was Sophie-

Lynn R. (01:07:40):

And Sophie.

Attorney Watson (01:07:41):

... at your house in the early morning hours as well?

Lynn R. (01:07:43):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:07:44):

Okay. And who is Layla?

Lynn R. (01:07:46):

Layla is Jackson's now fiance.

Attorney Watson (01:07:48):

Okay. And why was Layla Fotton staying at your house that weekend?

Lynn R. (01:07:53):

She was visiting for the weekend.

Attorney Watson (01:07:56):

Okay. And had anything happened to your son, Jackson's ankle?

Lynn R. (01:07:59):

Yes, he broke it.

Attorney Watson (01:08:00):

Okay. And was he in a boot or a cast?

Lynn R. (01:08:02):

A boot.

Attorney Watson (01:08:00):

Okay. And was he in a boot or a cast?

Lynn R. (01:08:02):

Boot, I believe.

Attorney Watson (01:08:05):

And that morning of May 20th of 2023, did Sophie go to work with your husband, Scott?

Lynn R. (01:08:11):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:08:12):

And did Sophie drive herself there?

Lynn R. (01:08:14):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:08:15):

And what time, if you recall, did she go to work that day?

Lynn R. (01:08:18):

She left the house around 7:30 in the morning.

Attorney Watson (01:08:22):

Okay. And where was she going to be working that day?

Lynn R. (01:08:24):

Simsbury, Connecticut.

Attorney Watson (01:08:28):

And what time did she work until at the job site in Simsbury?

Lynn R. (01:08:31):

About noon.

Attorney Watson (01:08:32):

And did she, when she left the job site, come back to your house?

Lynn R. (01:08:36):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:08:38):

And the house on Fieldview Drive?

Lynn R. (01:08:39):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:08:40):

And were you home when she came back there?

Lynn R. (01:08:41):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:08:43):

Okay. And about what time did she get back to your house?

Lynn R. (01:08:44):

12:20-ish.

Attorney Watson (01:08:45):

Okay. And when she came home that day, what did she do?

Lynn R. (01:08:51):

She came in, said hello to me, told me a little bit about work, went upstairs, showered, and left.

Attorney Watson (01:09:00):

Okay. And where was she going?

Lynn R. (01:09:01):

She was going to see Cooper at his father's shop.

Attorney Watson (01:09:04):

And what is the name of that shop?

Lynn R. (01:09:06):

Tidy.

Attorney Watson (01:09:07):

Tidy Services?

Lynn R. (01:09:08):

Tidy Services.

Attorney Watson (01:09:09):

Okay. And is that where Cooper was working?

Lynn R. (01:09:11):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:09:12):

And do you know where Tidy Services is located?

Lynn R. (01:09:15):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:09:15):

And where is that?

Lynn R. (01:09:17):

In Burlington, Connecticut.

Attorney Watson (01:09:21):

Now, did your daughter, Sophie, eventually come back from Tidy Services and seeing Cooper that day?

Lynn R. (01:09:28):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:09:28):

And did she drive herself back home?

Lynn R. (01:09:29):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:09:30):

And when she got home, did anyone else arrive in the driveway shortly after?

Lynn R. (01:09:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:09:35):

And who arrived?

Lynn R. (01:09:36):

Cooper.

Attorney Watson (01:09:36):

And what was he driving in the driveway?

Lynn R. (01:09:39):

The black truck.

Attorney Watson (01:09:39):

Okay. And when Sophie got home, did she park her truck in your driveway?

Lynn R. (01:09:44):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:09:44):

And after she did that, did she go inside your house?

Lynn R. (01:09:47):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:09:48):

And are you aware of whether or not she was supposed to be hanging out with Cooper that evening?

Lynn R. (01:09:53):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:09:54):

And did they have plans?

Lynn R. (01:09:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:09:56):

And were you aware of what those plans were?

Lynn R. (01:09:58):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:09:58):

And what were those plans?

Lynn R. (01:09:59):

To go to the Schultz Corporation or the Schultz shop.

Attorney Watson (01:10:03):

Okay. And where's the Schultz shop located?

Lynn R. (01:10:05):

In Terryville.

Attorney Watson (01:10:06):

And when your daughter, Sophie, went inside the house, did she grab some stuff and go back out to the driveway where Cooper Ouellette was parked?

Lynn R. (01:10:13):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:10:14):

And did she get into his truck and leave?

Lynn R. (01:10:16):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:10:17):

And about what time did she leave?

Lynn R. (01:10:20):

6:40, 6:30, somewhere around there.

Attorney Watson (01:10:26):

Okay. And on May 20th of 2023, did you have a camera system on the outside of your house?

Lynn R. (01:10:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:10:32):

And did that camera system record video footage of your driveway area in the front of your garage and other areas?

Lynn R. (01:10:38):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:10:39):

And as part of the investigation into this case by the state police, did they ask you or your husband for camera footage that you may had had from May 20th of 2023?

Lynn R. (01:10:50):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:10:51):

And did you provide those items to the state police?

Lynn R. (01:10:54):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:10:56):

And were you able to locate any recorded camera footage that showed when your daughter, Sophie, came home from hanging out with Cooper at Tidy Services on May 20th of 2023?

Lynn R. (01:11:05):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:11:07):

I'm going to show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit 3. And this has been marked as a full exhibit as well. Prior to your testimony here today, did you have an opportunity to view what is on that thumb drive?

Lynn R. (01:11:23):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:11:24):

And did you do that in the confines of my office?

Lynn R. (01:11:26):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:11:27):

And is that a fair and accurate recording of when Sophie came home from Tidy Services and then that evening?

Lynn R. (01:11:35):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:11:37):

Okay. And at this point, it's been marked as a full exhibit, Your Honor.

Judge (01:11:41):

All right. You going to publish it?

Attorney Watson (01:11:43):

May I have one moment? Yes, please.

Judge (01:11:47):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (01:11:57):

And can you hit stop, please, Inspector? And Your Honor, with permission, I'm going to have the inspector stop at certain times. I don't wish to be rude. I'm just going to indicate to hit pause, if that's acceptable. So, looking at that video there that's on the screen in front of you, is it playing for you over here?

Lynn R. (01:12:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:12:17):

And can you see it on the screen over here as well?

Lynn R. (01:12:18):

I can.

Attorney Watson (01:12:19):

Okay. Is there a time that is depicted there?

Lynn R. (01:12:22):

6:19.

Attorney Watson (01:12:23):

And is there seconds to that time, too?

Lynn R. (01:12:25):

42.

Attorney Watson (01:12:26):

And is there a date?

Lynn R. (01:12:28):

5/20/2023.

Attorney Watson (01:12:30):

And is that your driver?

Lynn R. (01:12:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:12:32):

Okay. And is this the camera system or one of the cameras that you had at the time?

Lynn R. (01:12:36):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:12:37):

And whose car is up in the left-hand corner of that video?

Lynn R. (01:12:42):

Layla Fine's.

Attorney Watson (01:12:43):

And to the left of that car, is there a parking area where people would normally park?

Lynn R. (01:12:47):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:12:49):

And was that where Sophie would normally park her truck?

Lynn R. (01:12:52):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:12:53):

Now, if we can play the exhibit, please, and I'll indicate when to pause.

(01:12:57)
Can we pause, please? And we are paused at 6:20:26. Was it raining that day when Sophie came home?

Lynn R. (01:13:50):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:13:53):

And the truck that just pulled in, is that Sophie's truck?

Lynn R. (01:13:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:13:57):

Can you hit play, please? Did she park in her normal spot?

Lynn R. (01:14:03):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:14:03):

And can you please hit pause, sir? The time is indicated as 6:20:49. Whose truck is that?

Lynn R. (01:14:26):

Cooper's.

Attorney Watson (01:14:32):

Can we hit play, please?

(01:14:44)
And can you hit pause? The person that just got out of the passenger, or that went to the passenger side of the truck and then got out of it, is that your daughter?

Lynn R. (01:14:54):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:14:54):

And is that a sweatshirt she would normally wear?

Lynn R. (01:14:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:14:56):

Okay. Can you hit play, please? Now hit pause, please. When she left putting something inside Cooper Ouellette's truck, did she go inside your home?

Lynn R. (01:15:13):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:15:14):

And did you speak with her when she went inside your home?

Lynn R. (01:15:17):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:15:18):

And did you say anything to her when she left?

Lynn R. (01:15:21):

"Bye."

Attorney Watson (01:15:23):

Okay. Was that normal?

Lynn R. (01:15:23):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:16:51):

Okay. And may you hit play, please?

(01:16:51)
Can you hit pause, please, sir? Who just came out of your house?

Lynn R. (01:16:52):

Sophie.

Attorney Watson (01:16:53):

And what was she wearing?

Lynn R. (01:16:56):

Leggings and a Tidy hoodie.

Attorney Watson (01:17:00):

Okay. And what color is that hoodie she was wearing?

Lynn R. (01:17:04):

Gray.

Attorney Watson (01:17:04):

And is that hoodie from Tidy Services, the company that Cooper's father owns?

Lynn R. (01:17:10):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:17:12):

Okay. And can you hit play, please?

(01:17:12)
Was it normal for your daughter to come in... And could we hit pause right there, please? Is it normal for your daughter to come inside your house when she was seeing Cooper, and pop in and speak with you and then leave?

Lynn R. (01:18:35):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:18:35):

And if the records reflect the video is paused at 6:23:37 hours, and the black truck that Cooper Ouellette was operating and Sophie Ringquist is guiding is reversing out of the driveway.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):

Strike the name.

Attorney Watson (01:18:48):

And you can hit... Excuse me?

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):

Strike the name you said.

Attorney Watson (01:18:51):

I'm sorry. Can you strike that name? I apologize.

Judge (01:18:54):

Got stricken.

Attorney Watson (01:18:56):

Can we hit play, please?

(01:18:57)
And needing a pause. Is that when Sophie left for the evening with Cooper?

Lynn R. (01:19:15):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:19:15):

Okay. And you can take that down, please, sir. Now, you had previously indicated that Sophie was going to the Schultz Corporation that evening, is that correct?

Lynn R. (01:19:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:19:32):

And to your knowledge, has she been there before?

Lynn R. (01:19:33):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:19:35):

And had she been there before 5/20 of 2023?

Lynn R. (01:19:38):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:19:39):

Now, did Sophie come back to your home later that evening?

Lynn R. (01:19:43):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:19:44):

And before she came back to your home, were you texting with her?

Lynn R. (01:19:48):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:19:49):

And while Sophie was driving with Cooper Ouellette to the Schultz Corporation, were you texting with her?

Lynn R. (01:19:55):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:19:56):

And when you sent texts to her at that time, did she respond to you?

Lynn R. (01:19:59):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:20:01):

And was it normal for her not to respond to your texts?

Lynn R. (01:20:05):

No, that was not normal.

Attorney Watson (01:20:08):

Did you text her later in the evening after 11:00?

Lynn R. (01:20:11):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:20:12):

And did you text her specifically at 11:44?

Lynn R. (01:20:15):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:20:17):

And what did you text her at 11:44?

Lynn R. (01:20:18):

"Where are you?"

Attorney Watson (01:20:19):

And why did you send that text to her at 11:44?

Lynn R. (01:20:24):

Because she was late for curfew.

Attorney Watson (01:20:26):

And what was Sophie's curfew?

Lynn R. (01:20:28):

11:30.

Attorney Watson (01:20:30):

And when you sent that text to her, "Where are you?" Did Sophie respond?

Lynn R. (01:20:34):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:20:35):

And after you texted her at 11:44 and she didn't respond, did you check her location on Life360?

Lynn R. (01:20:41):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:20:42):

And when you did that, did it indicate where Sophie was?

Lynn R. (01:20:46):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:20:47):

And where was she?

Lynn R. (01:20:48):

Fieldview Drive.

Attorney Watson (01:20:50):

On Fieldview Drive?

Lynn R. (01:20:51):

Mm-hmm.

Attorney Watson (01:20:51):

Okay. And when you saw that she was on Fieldview Drive, or in the area near your home, did you do anything with respect to your garage?

Lynn R. (01:20:59):

I opened it.

Attorney Watson (01:21:00):

And how did you do that?

Lynn R. (01:21:02):

App on my phone.

Attorney Watson (01:21:03):

And when you did that, did Sophie come home after you opened the garage?

Lynn R. (01:21:09):

Shortly thereafter, yes.

Attorney Watson (01:21:11):

But it was after you opened the garage, correct?

Lynn R. (01:21:13):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:21:14):

Now, while Sophie was out that evening with Cooper Ouellette before she came back home, who was at your house?

Lynn R. (01:21:21):

My husband, Jackson, and Layla.

Attorney Watson (01:21:25):

Okay. And where were Jackson and Layla around 11:50?

Lynn R. (01:21:29):

Upstairs, sleeping. Well, I assumed sleeping.

Attorney Watson (01:21:31):

Okay. And where was your husband?

Lynn R. (01:21:33):

Upstairs, sleeping.

Attorney Watson (01:21:35):

Okay. And were you in the house at 11:50?

Lynn R. (01:21:39):

Where was I or was I?

Attorney Watson (01:21:40):

Or were you in the house?

Lynn R. (01:21:41):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:21:42):

Okay. And where were you?

Lynn R. (01:21:43):

In the living room.

Attorney Watson (01:21:44):

And what were you doing in the living room?

Lynn R. (01:21:46):

Sitting in a chair waiting for Sophie.

Attorney Watson (01:21:49):

To come home?

Lynn R. (01:21:49):

Mm-hmm.

Attorney Watson (01:21:52):

Okay. And at about 11:50 PM that evening, what had happened?

Lynn R. (01:21:58):

Cooper came through the garage door into the house, started going upstairs, calling for me. I told him I was right here, got up from the chair, and asked him what was going on.

Attorney Watson (01:22:09):

Okay. And when you asked him what was going on, did Cooper say anything back to you when you said that?

Lynn R. (01:22:14):

He said, "Something's wrong with Sophie. I don't know what's wrong with Sophie."

Attorney Watson (01:22:19):

And when Cooper Ouellette told you that, what did you do?

Lynn R. (01:22:21):

I went outside to the truck.

Attorney Watson (01:22:25):

And did Cooper Ouellette go outside to the truck with you?

Lynn R. (01:22:27):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:22:28):

And when you went outside to the driveway, did you see Cooper Ouellette's truck parked there?

Lynn R. (01:22:32):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:22:34):

And when you went outside and saw Cooper Ouellette's truck parked there, did you go to the passenger side door or the driver's side door?

Lynn R. (01:22:41):

Passenger.

Attorney Watson (01:22:42):

And when you got to the passenger side door, was it open?

Lynn R. (01:22:45):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:22:46):

And when you got to the passenger side door and found it open, did you look inside?

Lynn R. (01:22:49):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:22:51):

And when you looked inside, what did you see?

Lynn R. (01:22:55):

Sophie slumped over.

Attorney Watson (01:22:59):

And can you tell me how she was slumped over?

Lynn R. (01:23:02):

She was leaning towards the side, towards the driver's seat.

Attorney Watson (01:23:08):

And when you saw Sophie slumped over like that, did you say anything to Cooper Ouellette?

Lynn R. (01:23:12):

I said, "My God, Cooper, what happened?"

Attorney Watson (01:23:15):

And what, if anything, did Cooper say back to you when you said that?

Lynn R. (01:23:19):

He said, "Sophie was driving." And I said, "She was driving?" He said, "No, no, no. I was driving." I said, "How much have you had to drink?" And I don't really remember exactly what he said 'cause then my attention went to Sophie.

Attorney Watson (01:23:36):

Okay. And did you try and move Sophie out of the truck when you found her in that state?

Lynn R. (01:23:39):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:23:39):

And were you able to do that?

Lynn R. (01:23:39):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:23:42):

And when you couldn't get Sophie out of the truck, what did you do?

Lynn R. (01:23:45):

I laid her on the ground.

Attorney Watson (01:23:51):

Okay. And did you go back inside your house?

Lynn R. (01:23:53):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:23:54):

And why did you go inside your house?

Lynn R. (01:23:56):

To get help.

Attorney Watson (01:23:58):

Okay. And how did you do that?

Lynn R. (01:23:59):

Screamed for my husband.

Attorney Watson (01:24:01):

Okay. And when you screamed for your husband, did your husband come down the stairs?

Lynn R. (01:24:04):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:24:05):

And did anyone else come down the stairs?

Lynn R. (01:24:07):

Jackson.

Attorney Watson (01:24:09):

As well?

Lynn R. (01:24:10):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:24:10):

And did you then go back outside to the truck where Sophie was?

Lynn R. (01:24:15):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:24:17):

And who else from your house went outside to the truck with you?

Lynn R. (01:24:20):

Jackson was out there. Scott was out there.

Attorney Watson (01:24:24):

Okay. And when you got back to the truck, what, if anything, did you notice about Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:24:30):

She was limp, lifeless, lying on the ground.

Attorney Watson (01:24:36):

Did you notice that she had any injuries to her face?

Lynn R. (01:24:39):

Yes. She had road rash on her left cheek, she had a chipped front tooth, and a bottom tooth that looked like it was about to fall out.

Attorney Watson (01:24:53):

Okay.

Lynn R. (01:24:54):

And her mouth was bloody and her sweatshirt was bloody.

Attorney Watson (01:24:58):

And when you were outside, were you able to eventually get Sophie up?

Lynn R. (01:25:03):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:25:03):

Okay. And did you and your husband pick Sophie up?

Lynn R. (01:25:09):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:25:11):

Okay. And when you did that, can you describe how her body was?

Lynn R. (01:25:16):

Heavy.

Attorney Watson (01:25:17):

Okay.

Lynn R. (01:25:17):

Limp.

Attorney Watson (01:25:19):

Was she moving at all?

Lynn R. (01:25:21):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:25:22):

Was she talking at all?

Lynn R. (01:25:23):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:25:24):

Was she making any sounds?

Lynn R. (01:25:26):

Some groaning.

Attorney Watson (01:25:27):

Groaning? Were you and your husband able to carry Sophie into the garage?

Lynn R. (01:25:36):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:25:37):

And was Cooper Ouellette outside near the truck when you and your husband were carrying her to the house?

Lynn R. (01:25:42):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:25:43):

And did Cooper Ouellette help you and your husband carry Sophie into the garage?

Lynn R. (01:25:47):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:25:49):

And when you got Sophie into the garage, what, if anything, did Layla do?

Lynn R. (01:25:54):

Layla went and got Sophie's pocketbook from Cooper.

Attorney Watson (01:25:58):

From the truck?

Lynn R. (01:25:59):

From the truck.

Attorney Watson (01:25:59):

And did she come back into the garage after she did that?

Lynn R. (01:26:02):

She did.

Attorney Watson (01:26:03):

And when you got Sophie into the garage, what did you do with her?

Lynn R. (01:26:07):

We didn't get very far. We put her in the entryway from the garage into the house.

Attorney Watson (01:26:15):

And was she able to sit up on her own?

Lynn R. (01:26:16):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:26:17):

Did you have to prop her up?

Lynn R. (01:26:19):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:26:23):

You indicated you'd met with the state police and you provided them with video camera footage. Were you able to provide any video camera footage to them that indicated when your daughter came home that evening?

Lynn R. (01:26:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:26:35):

Now, prior to your testimony today, did you review that footage in my office?

Lynn R. (01:26:38):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:26:39):

And is it a fair and accurate recording of when your daughter arrived home and what happened when she was outside of your home?

Lynn R. (01:26:46):

It is. Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:26:47):

And that is marked as State's Exhibit 4, and I'm just going to show you the thumb drive and ask if your initials are on the back. And are your initials indicated there?

Lynn R. (01:26:55):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:26:56):

And you watched that previous to your testimony today?

Lynn R. (01:26:57):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:27:05):

And with the court's permission, I'd ask to publish.

Judge (01:27:08):

Yes, you may. It's full, correct, Attorney Minnella?

Attorney Minnella (01:27:13):

Yes, Your Honor. There's no objection.

Judge (01:27:14):

All right. Same exhibit.

Attorney Watson (01:27:17):

And the timeframe starts, Your Honor, at around 11:40 and a couple seconds. And may I have the court's permission to sit until it gets to the proper timeframe?

Judge (01:27:39):

You may.

Attorney Watson (01:27:39):

Thank you.

Judge (01:27:42):

That start at 11:40:28, approximately?

Attorney Watson (01:27:45):

Yes. And while that's playing, then I have a few more questions for you. That day or previous to May 20th of 2023, had you purchased a new cell phone for Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:28:10):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:28:12):

And did that new cell phone that she had also have the Life360 app on it?

Lynn R. (01:28:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:28:16):

Thank you. And Lynne, is it still raining at this point, at 11:41:56 hours?

Lynn R. (01:29:05):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:29:57):

The light that is on the side of your house here, and I'm pointing at it here in the lower right-hand corner.

Lynn R. (01:30:03):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:30:04):

Is that a motion light?

Lynn R. (01:30:05):

It is.

Attorney Watson (01:30:07):

And does that go on when you normally open the garage?

Lynn R. (01:30:10):

I believe so.

Attorney Watson (01:31:50):

With the court's permission, I'm just going to ask the inspector to fast-forward to about 11:50.

Judge (01:31:56):

Any objection?

Attorney Minnella (01:31:57):

No, Your Honor.

Judge (01:31:58):

All right.

Attorney Watson (01:32:02):

And if you could just bear with him because the technology that we have is not that great. And the time is now reflecting 11:49:47 hours. Can you hit pause, please, sir? And I paused it at 11:50:31 hours. Who pulled into your driveway at 11:50:31 hours?

Lynn R. (01:33:06):

Cooper.

Attorney Watson (01:33:07):

And is he depicted there, where the video is stopped?

Lynn R. (01:33:11):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:33:12):

And is he driving that black Chevy truck that you had indicated?

Lynn R. (01:33:15):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:34:00):

Can you hit play, please?

(01:34:00)
Can you stop, please? Or pause, excuse me. And I paused at 11:51:14 hours. Is that when Cooper Ouellette came inside your house?

Lynn R. (01:34:10):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:34:12):

Can you hit play, please?

(01:34:12)
Can you hit pause, please? The time is 11:51:52. Who came out of your house at that time?

Lynn R. (01:34:59):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:35:00):

And was Cooper Ouellette with you?

Lynn R. (01:35:01):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:35:02):

And is this when you go to the passenger side of the truck and you see your daughter, Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:35:07):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:35:36):

Can you hit play, please?

(01:35:36)
Can you hit pause, please? The time is 11:52:21. Is this when you go back inside the house when you were unsuccessful in getting Sophie out of the car?

Lynn R. (01:35:44):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:35:46):

And is she on the ground at this point?

Lynn R. (01:35:48):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:36:32):

Can you hit play, please?

(01:36:38)
Hit pause, please. Who is the person that came hopping outside of your house?

Lynn R. (01:36:41):

Jackson.

Attorney Watson (01:36:41):

That's your son?

Lynn R. (01:36:41):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:36:41):

And the time is 11:52:56. Can you hit play, please? And can you hit pause, please? And who was the other individual that just came out of your house at 11:53:02?

Lynn R. (01:36:43):

My husband.

Attorney Watson (01:36:43):

Can you hit play, please?

(01:36:47)
Can you hit pause, please? And at 11: 53:54, is that you and your husband carrying your daughter, Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:37:39):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:37:40):

Was it difficult to carry Sophie in?

Lynn R. (01:37:42):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:37:43):

Was she able to move at all on her own?

Lynn R. (01:37:44):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:37:44):

Can you hit play, please?

(01:37:46)
Can you hit pause, please? Who was the other individual that just arrived on screen at 11:54:14 besides Cooper on the left?

Lynn R. (01:38:22):

Layla.

Attorney Watson (01:38:22):

Okay. Can you hit play please? And is that when Layla was getting your daughter's purse from Cooper?

Lynn R. (01:38:30):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:40:14):

And can you hit pause, please? The record to reflect it's paused at 11:55:58 hours. Who got into that black truck?

Lynn R. (01:40:17):

Cooper.

Attorney Watson (01:40:17):

And can you hit play, please? And did Cooper Ouellette move his truck out of your driveway at that time?

Lynn R. (01:40:41):

He did.

(01:40:55)
Attorney Watson, can I just clarify something?

Judge (01:40:58):

There's got to be a question, ma'am.

Lynn R. (01:40:59):

Oh.

Attorney Watson (01:40:59):

Okay.

Lynn R. (01:40:59):

It's about the lights.

Attorney Watson (01:41:12):

You had indicated you wanted to say something about the lights?

Lynn R. (01:41:14):

Yes. You had asked me about the first-

Attorney Minnella (01:41:16):

Objection, Your Honor, there's no question pending.

Lynn R. (01:41:19):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (01:41:21):

Are the lights motion-activated?

Judge (01:41:22):

I'm going to rule on that objection. That's sustained. It was leading. You can re-ask.

Attorney Watson (01:41:28):

Are the lights motion-activated?

Lynn R. (01:41:30):

The top one is.

Attorney Watson (01:41:32):

The top one is?

Lynn R. (01:41:32):

Mm-hmm.

Attorney Watson (01:41:33):

Which one is not?

Lynn R. (01:41:34):

‍

The bottom one that you asked me about at the beginning.

Attorney Watson (01:41:37):

Thank you. Now, when you got Sophie into the garage, did anyone call 911?

Lynn R. (01:41:41):

I did. I asked Layla to call 911 on her phone, and then she handed it to me and I spoke with 911.

Attorney Watson (01:41:50):

Okay. And when you spoke with 911, did you call for an ambulance?

Lynn R. (01:41:55):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:41:58):

Okay. And was an ambulance going to come to your location at that time?

Lynn R. (01:42:03):

I asked how...

Attorney Watson (01:42:00):

... to your location at that time?

Lynn R. (01:42:03):

I asked how long it was going to be, and they told me they didn't know because we were volunteer in Burlington.

Attorney Watson (01:42:10):

Okay. And so, what did you decide to do at that point?

Lynn R. (01:42:12):

Take her ourselves.

Attorney Watson (01:42:13):

And did you put Sophie into one of your cars?

Lynn R. (01:42:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:42:17):

Was that car in the garage?

Lynn R. (01:42:18):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:42:19):

And whose car was that?

Lynn R. (01:42:20):

My husband's.

Attorney Watson (01:42:22):

Okay. And who helped put Sophie into the car?

Lynn R. (01:42:26):

Myself and my husband.

Attorney Watson (01:42:27):

And when you put Sophie into the car, did you put her in the front seat or the back seat?

Lynn R. (01:42:31):

The back seat.

Attorney Watson (01:42:32):

And was she able to move at that point?

Lynn R. (01:42:34):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:42:35):

Was she talking at that point?

Lynn R. (01:42:36):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:42:38):

And when you put Sophie into the backseat of the car, did you tell Cooper Ouellette to do anything?

Lynn R. (01:42:45):

I believe I asked for her phone.

Attorney Watson (01:42:47):

Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):

Your Honor, I'm having trouble hearing her.

The Court (01:42:50):

Sure.

Lynn R. (01:42:50):

Sorry.

The Court (01:42:51):

It's okay.

(01:42:52)
Do you want to re-ask that question again so we could hear that?

Attorney Watson (01:42:55):

When you got Sophie into the backseat of your husband's car, did you ask Cooper Ouellette to do anything?

Lynn R. (01:43:02):

Oh, move his truck.

Attorney Watson (01:43:03):

Okay. And the video that you have watched, does that indicate when he had moved to the truck?

Lynn R. (01:43:06):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:43:08):

Okay. And after Cooper Ouellette had moved his truck, did he come back to the garage?

Lynn R. (01:43:13):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:43:14):

And when he came back to the garage, did Cooper Ouellette give you anything while you were in the garage with Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:43:20):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:43:20):

What did he give you?

Lynn R. (01:43:21):

Her phone.

Attorney Watson (01:43:24):

And while Cooper Ouellette was at your house that night, did he tell you what happened to Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:43:29):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:43:30):

And what did he say to you?

Lynn R. (01:43:31):

He said she fell out of the truck.

Attorney Watson (01:43:34):

Okay. And did he tell you that any part of his truck had struck Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:43:41):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:43:43):

Did you then leave to bring Sophie to the hospital?

Lynn R. (01:43:46):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:43:47):

And who brought Sophie to the hospital?

Lynn R. (01:43:49):

My husband drove.

Attorney Watson (01:43:51):

Okay. And where did you sit in the car?

Lynn R. (01:43:53):

In the back with Sophie.

Attorney Watson (01:43:54):

And can you describe how you were seated in the back of that car?

Lynn R. (01:43:58):

They're bucket seats. Sophie was behind the driver's seat. And I was sitting on a cup holder, between a cup holder and her seat with her to hold her up.

Attorney Watson (01:44:20):

Okay. Now I'm going to show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit 5. It is a full exhibit. It's a thumb drive. I'm going to ask you, prior to your testimony today, you reviewed the contents of that thumb drive in my office?

Lynn R. (01:44:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:44:31):

And did you place your initials on it?

Lynn R. (01:44:33):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:44:33):

With The Court's permission, I'd like to play State's Exhibit 5.

The Court (01:44:36):

You may.

Attorney Watson (01:44:38):

And is State's Exhibit 5 a video from your home as well?

Lynn R. (01:44:41):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:44:42):

And does this depict what time you had left to go to the hospital?

Lynn R. (01:44:45):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:44:47):

It begins playing at 12:01:33 hours. And again, is this your driveway?

Lynn R. (01:44:53):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:44:54):

And while that plays, I'm going to ask you some questions, okay?

Lynn R. (01:45:23):

Okay.

The Court (01:45:26):

That's fine. Go right ahead.

Attorney Watson (01:45:29):

Once you got Sophie into the garage, before you had placed her into the truck and after you dialed 911, did you go upstairs to change at all?

Lynn R. (01:45:39):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:45:39):

And did your husband as well?

Lynn R. (01:45:40):

Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):

Your Honor, I'm just going to object, I haven't earlier, but he continues to lead the witness, Your Honor. It's not [inaudible 01:45:49]. I know it's not-

The Court (01:45:50):

That was leading. There are some preliminary questions that-

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):

Preliminary, I understand.

The Court (01:45:54):

All right. I'm going to sustain that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):

Thank you, Your Honor.

Attorney Watson (01:45:58):

Once you got Sophie into the garage and you called 911, what did you do?

Lynn R. (01:46:03):

Ran upstairs, put some clothes on.

Attorney Watson (01:46:05):

And did your husband do the same?

Lynn R. (01:46:06):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:46:07):

If you could pause it, please.

(01:46:29)
It's paused at 12:03 hours. Is that the car that you took Sophie to the hospital in?

Lynn R. (01:46:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:46:34):

Okay. And is that the time that you left to bring her to the hospital?

Lynn R. (01:46:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:46:34):

Can you hit play please? And you can turn off the exhibits, please. Thank you. Now, I'm going to show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit 6 as a full exhibit.

(01:47:05)
Previous to your testimony today, did you have an occasion to review the contents of that thumb drive?

Lynn R. (01:47:10):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:47:10):

Did you place your initials on it?

Lynn R. (01:47:12):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:47:13):

And did you view that in my office?

Lynn R. (01:47:14):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:47:15):

And at that time on May 20th of 2023, did you have additional cameras near the top of your driveway?

Lynn R. (01:47:23):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:47:24):

And is what is indicated on State's Exhibit 6 one of those cameras?

Lynn R. (01:47:28):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:47:31):

I ask for permission to play it as well.

The Court (01:47:32):

Yes.

Video (01:47:32):

[inaudible 01:47:37]

Attorney Watson (01:47:43):

Thank you.

(01:47:45)
Now, on the way to the hospital, when you were in the back seat with Sophie, was she making any sounds?

Lynn R. (01:47:52):

Just moaning.

Attorney Watson (01:47:54):

And did she say anything to you?

Lynn R. (01:47:56):

At one point she started to say Cooper's name.

Attorney Watson (01:47:59):

Okay. And when she said Cooper's name, was she able to tell you what happened that evening?

Lynn R. (01:48:05):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:48:05):

Was she able to talk besides saying his name?

Lynn R. (01:48:07):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:48:09):

And what did you notice about Sophie while you were in the back of that car on the way to the hospital?

Lynn R. (01:48:14):

I noticed that she only had one boot on.

Attorney Watson (01:48:17):

Okay. And what type of boots was she wearing?

Lynn R. (01:48:19):

A cowboy boot.

Attorney Watson (01:48:21):

Okay. And what hospital did you bring Sophie to?

Lynn R. (01:48:23):

Bristol.

Attorney Watson (01:48:25):

And when you got to the Bristol Hospital, what, if anything, did you do?

Lynn R. (01:48:29):

I asked my husband to find a gurney. He found a wheelchair sitting right outside and the two of us put her in the wheelchair. He went to move the car and I held her up with my left hand and pushed the wheelchair with my right into the emergency department.

Attorney Watson (01:48:48):

And was she able to hold herself up?

Lynn R. (01:48:50):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:48:51):

And did you eventually get Sophie inside the hospital's ER?

Lynn R. (01:48:54):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:48:55):

And when you did that, what did the ER staff do with Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:49:00):

Well, I pushed her in. I screamed that I needed help. Someone greeted me and brought us to a room.

Attorney Watson (01:49:09):

And when they say, "Brought us to a room," who is us?

Lynn R. (01:49:13):

Sophie and I.

Attorney Watson (01:49:15):

And once you got into that room, did the ER staff start working on Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:49:20):

The nurses started undressing her.

Attorney Watson (01:49:22):

Okay. And while the ER staff was doing that, did you call Cooper Ouellette?

Lynn R. (01:49:28):

I did.

Attorney Watson (01:49:29):

And when you called Cooper Ouellette, what did you say to him?

Lynn R. (01:49:33):

I asked him to tell me exactly what happened. I needed to know how much she drank, if she took anything else, and exactly what happened so that the doctors could properly treat her.

Attorney Watson (01:49:46):

And when you called Cooper Ouellette, did he answer your phone call?

Lynn R. (01:49:48):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:49:50):

And when he answered the call, what, if anything ... I'm sorry.

(01:49:54)
Strike that, please.

(01:49:55)
When you asked Cooper Ouellette what happened, what did he say to you on the phone?

Lynn R. (01:49:59):

He told me that Sophie said she needed to throw up and that he told her to tell him when, she didn't give him enough time, and fell out of the truck.

Attorney Watson (01:50:14):

Okay. And did he indicate how fast he was going when she fell out of the truck?

Lynn R. (01:50:18):

He did. He said he was going about 20 miles an hour.

Attorney Watson (01:50:23):

And at that point during that phone call, did Cooper Ouellette tell you any part of his truck hit Sophie?

Lynn R. (01:50:28):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:50:29):

And did he tell you where she fell out of the truck?

Lynn R. (01:50:32):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:50:34):

Did you ask him where she fell out of the truck?

Lynn R. (01:50:35):

No.

Attorney Watson (01:50:39):

When he told you that he was going 20 miles an hour, did you say anything to him?

Lynn R. (01:50:45):

I think I was in shock and said, "You weren't stopped."

Attorney Watson (01:50:53):

And when you said that, did he respond to you?

Lynn R. (01:50:56):

Yeah, he told me they were still going.

Attorney Watson (01:50:58):

And did he tell you how fast they were going?

Lynn R. (01:51:02):

20 miles an hour.

Attorney Watson (01:51:04):

And after that, did the call end?

Lynn R. (01:51:06):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:51:08):

And did Cooper Ouellette text or call you after that conversation you had with him while you were at the hospital?

Lynn R. (01:51:13):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (01:51:14):

Did he call you or text you?

Lynn R. (01:51:16):

Text.

Attorney Watson (01:51:16):

Okay. And what time did he text you?

Lynn R. (01:51:20):

Oh, I'm not 100% sure. I'm going to say around 12:40 would be my best guess.

Attorney Watson (01:51:30):

May I have one moment? [inaudible 01:51:31]. Yeah. You want me to ask?

(01:51:43)
May we approach, Your Honor?

The Court (01:51:44):

You may. [inaudible 01:51:46]. I'm sorry, I'm going to have you sit there for a second, okay?

Lynn R. (01:52:00):

Okay.

The Court (01:52:01):

Ladies and gentlemen, it's 11:40 today, or right now, we're going to take our morning recess. Going to be back in session approximately at 11:55.

(01:52:11)
Remember, please, to abide by all the rules of juror conduct I told you about at the beginning of the case. Please don't discuss the case with anyone else, including the other jurors. Leave your notebook on the chair and enjoy your break. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):

All rise. [inaudible 02:08:07].

Attorney Watson (01:52:23):

Good morning, Your Honor.

The Court (01:52:23):

Good morning everybody. Have a sit.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):

Good morning, Your Honor.

The Court (02:08:14):

All right. The parties ready for the jury?

Attorney Watson (02:08:15):

Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):

Yes, Your Honor, for the jury.

(02:09:52)
And then, we'll stipulate all jurors and alternates are present, Your Honor.

The Court (02:09:56):

State stipulates?

Attorney Watson (02:09:57):

[inaudible 02:09:57], Your Honor. Thank you.

The Court (02:09:57):

All right. Thank you.

(02:09:58)
I just want to remind you, Ms. [inaudible 02:10:00], you're still under oath, okay?

Lynn R. (02:10:01):

Yes.

The Court (02:10:01):

Thank you.

Lynn R. (02:10:01):

Thank you.

The Court (02:10:02):

All right. State.

Attorney Watson (02:10:09):

After you had that phone conversation with Cooper Ouellette while you were in the hospital, did he call or text you again?

Lynn R. (02:10:15):

He texted me.

Attorney Watson (02:10:17):

Okay. And did he text you after you had that conversation?

Lynn R. (02:10:20):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:10:20):

Okay. And what did he text you?

Lynn R. (02:10:23):

He texted me saying if I needed anything, to call or message him.

Attorney Watson (02:10:29):

Okay. And did he text you again after he sent that message to you?

Lynn R. (02:10:33):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:10:34):

And what did he text you?

Lynn R. (02:10:36):

He asked if Sophie was okay.

Attorney Watson (02:10:38):

And when he texted you that, did you respond?

Lynn R. (02:10:41):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:10:42):

And what did you say to him?

Lynn R. (02:10:43):

No, that there were four or five people working on her. She was getting x-rays.

Attorney Watson (02:10:52):

Okay. And when you texted him that, did he respond to you?

Lynn R. (02:10:56):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:10:58):

Did you text him again after that?

Lynn R. (02:11:00):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:11:01):

And what did you text him again after that?

Lynn R. (02:11:05):

I asked him if he got home safely.

Attorney Watson (02:11:07):

And did he respond to you when you sent that text?

Lynn R. (02:11:09):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:11:13):

Did you hear from Cooper Ouellette after his last text to you that night?

Lynn R. (02:11:20):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:11:21):

Did you hear from him via text message?

Lynn R. (02:11:23):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:11:24):

Did you hear from him via phone call?

Lynn R. (02:11:25):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:11:32):

Did Cooper Ouellette ever come to the hospital while you were there?

Lynn R. (02:11:34):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:11:37):

Did you or anyone else that was at your house that evening before you went to the hospital tell Cooper Ouellette he couldn't come to the hospital?

Lynn R. (02:11:43):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:11:44):

Now, while you're in the room with Sophie and she's being worked on, the staff ask you to step outside the room?

Lynn R. (02:11:52):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:11:53):

And when they asked you to step outside the room, where did you go?

Lynn R. (02:11:56):

Right outside her door. They gave me a chair to sit right outside her room.

Attorney Watson (02:12:00):

Okay. And where was Scott at that point?

Lynn R. (02:12:02):

In the waiting room.

Attorney Watson (02:12:03):

Okay. And did someone get Scott out of the waiting room?

Lynn R. (02:12:06):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:12:07):

Did they bring him to where you were?

Lynn R. (02:12:10):

They brought us into a different room.

Attorney Watson (02:12:12):

Okay. And was Sophie in the room that they brought you to?

Lynn R. (02:12:15):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:12:18):

And did Scott go with you to that room?

Lynn R. (02:12:19):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:12:20):

Now, while you and Scott were in the other room, did a member of the hospital staff come and speak with you?

Lynn R. (02:12:26):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:12:27):

And when they came into the room, what did they tell you?

Lynn R. (02:12:30):

They said, "I'm so sorry."

Attorney Watson (02:12:35):

And when you were told that, what did you do?

Lynn R. (02:12:39):

I yelled no and ran back to my daughter's room.

Attorney Watson (02:12:43):

Did Scott go with you?

Lynn R. (02:12:44):

No.

Attorney Watson (02:12:46):

And when you got back into the room where Sophie was, what did you do?

Lynn R. (02:12:49):

I just stared at her in disbelief. And then, I sat down and I held her hand. And I prayed. And I sang songs.

Attorney Watson (02:13:02):

Do you need a minute?

(02:13:13)
While you were in the room with Sophie and you were holding her hand, did police officers arrive?

Lynn R. (02:13:17):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:13:19):

And do you recall what department arrived?

Lynn R. (02:13:21):

Bristol Hospital.

Attorney Watson (02:13:24):

Bristol Hospital?

Lynn R. (02:13:24):

I'm sorry, Bristol Police.

Attorney Watson (02:13:26):

And when the Bristol Police Department arrived, did another law enforcement agency arrive after that?

Lynn R. (02:13:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:13:35):

And did members of the Connecticut State Police arrive?

Lynn R. (02:13:39):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:13:41):

And when the members of the Connecticut State Police arrived, did they come and talk to both you and your husband, Scott?

Lynn R. (02:13:46):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:13:47):

And when you and Scott spoke to the state police, did you give them all the information you had at that point?

Lynn R. (02:13:52):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:13:54):

And did you tell them about how you could track Sophie's movements via Life360?

Lynn R. (02:13:58):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:13:59):

And did you provide them access to Sophie's cell phone?

Lynn R. (02:14:01):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:03):

And did you provide them with a passcode to Sophie's cell phone?

Lynn R. (02:14:08):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:10):

And eventually, did you turn over Sophie's cell phone to the Connecticut State Police while you were at the hospital?

Lynn R. (02:14:15):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:17):

Now, while you're at the hospital talking to the state police, did you show them a video that was on Sophie's phone?

Lynn R. (02:14:23):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:24):

And was that a video that was recorded that evening prior to her coming home?

Lynn R. (02:14:28):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:33):

Now, while this case was being investigated, did you meet with the state police and speak with them?

Lynn R. (02:14:39):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:42):

And did you know at that time that Sophie had a Snapchat account on her phone?

Lynn R. (02:14:47):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:48):

And were you able to access her Snapchat account?

Lynn R. (02:14:50):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:52):

And did you log onto her Snapchat account from your cell phone?

Lynn R. (02:14:55):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:14:57):

And did you review information that you found on that Snapchat account?

Lynn R. (02:15:00):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:15:01):

And did you share that information with the Connecticut State Police?

Lynn R. (02:15:04):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:15:05):

And did you share screenshots from that Snapchat account with the Connecticut State Police?

Lynn R. (02:15:10):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:15:11):

I'm going to show you what's been previously marked as State's Exhibit 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11. And I believe they are all marked as full exhibits.

The Court (02:15:21):

I apologize, Attorney Watson, what numbers are they?

Attorney Watson (02:15:24):

I believe it's 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11.

(02:15:29)
There's 7. I'll ask you to take a look at 7. Are you familiar with that?

Lynn R. (02:15:33):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:15:34):

Is that a screenshot that you provided to the Connecticut State Police?

Lynn R. (02:15:37):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:15:39):

State's Exhibit 8. Are you familiar with that photograph?

Lynn R. (02:15:44):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:15:45):

Is that a screenshot that you provided to the Connecticut State Police?

Lynn R. (02:15:47):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:15:48):

Now, as it pertains to State's Exhibit ...

(02:15:50)
And may I question from here, Your Honor?

The Court (02:15:52):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:15:52):

Thank you.

(02:15:54)
As it pertains to State's Exhibit 7, that is a full exhibit, what is that?

Lynn R. (02:16:01):

That is a snapshot.

Lynn R. (02:16:01):

That is a Snapchat screenshot of our neighborhood.

Attorney Watson (02:16:09):

Okay, and may the inspector please publish that Exhibit 7, Your Honor? And did you take that with your cell phone?

Lynn R. (02:16:36):

I think it was just a screenshot.

Attorney Watson (02:16:39):

A screenshot, okay. And is that a Snap Map?

Lynn R. (02:16:42):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:16:42):

And does that show your daughter's location at a certain timeframe?

Lynn R. (02:16:46):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:16:47):

Okay. And there is a photograph that is depicted in the upper left-hand corner. Do you see the photograph I'm pointing to?

Lynn R. (02:16:54):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:16:55):

Okay. Did you look to see if that photograph was still in her Snapchat?

Lynn R. (02:17:02):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:17:02):

Okay. Now, looking at State's Exhibit 8, which is a full exhibit, is that what you found when you looked for that photograph?

Lynn R. (02:17:15):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:17:15):

Okay. And looking at State's Exhibit 9, is that State's Exhibit 9, the photo that is depicted in State's Exhibit 8?

Lynn R. (02:17:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:17:31):

Okay. Now, going to State's Exhibit 10, did you provide this to the Connecticut State Police as well?

Lynn R. (02:17:51):

I believe that's another screenshot.

Attorney Watson (02:17:53):

Okay, and did you provide that to the Connecticut State Police?

Lynn R. (02:17:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:17:56):

Okay. What does that screenshot, or does that screenshot say that a photograph was opened by another individual?

Lynn R. (02:18:06):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:18:06):

And who does it say it was opened by?

Lynn R. (02:18:08):

Morg Pease.

Attorney Watson (02:18:10):

I'm sorry, I didn't catch that.

Lynn R. (02:18:11):

Morg Pease, which is Morgan Pease, a friend of Sophie's.

Attorney Watson (02:18:15):

And for the benefit of the reporter, I'm going to indicate the last name is spelled P-E-A-S-E. And does it say what time that Snapchat was sent?

Lynn R. (02:18:26):

11:41 PM.

Attorney Watson (02:18:31):

Now, did you look on that Snapchat account to see what the photo was that was depicted underneath that or that was depicted there?

Lynn R. (02:18:40):

Did I see what the photograph?

Attorney Watson (02:18:41):

Yes.

Lynn R. (02:18:41):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:18:43):

Okay. I'm going to show you State's Exhibit 11. Is that the photograph that came from the other screenshot?

Lynn R. (02:18:54):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:18:55):

Thank you. May I have a moment please?

Chris Pelosi (02:19:01):

You may.

Attorney Watson (02:19:06):

I have no further questions of this witness, Your Honor.

Chris Pelosi (02:19:07):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (02:19:07):

May I return the exhibits?

Chris Pelosi (02:19:08):

You may.

Martin Minella (02:19:09):

Permission to approach.

Chris Pelosi (02:19:27):

All right. Thank you, Attorney Watson. Attorney Minnella?

Martin Minella (02:19:33):

Yes, Your Honor. Good afternoon.

Lynn R. (02:19:36):

Yeah.

Martin Minella (02:19:36):

And may I call you Lynne?

Lynn R. (02:19:38):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:19:39):

I've seen you on a number of occasions. I've never introduced myself. My name is Marty Minnella. I represent Cooper Ouellette in this case. And you may call me Marty, but I can call you Lynne.

Lynn R. (02:19:52):

Thank you.

Martin Minella (02:19:53):

I'm going to ask you a number of questions, okay? Before you answer the question, think about it. I know this is a stressful period. I understand it, so I'm going to try to be as kind as I can, but if I get into an area that may upset you, I want to apologize before I start. Okay? Now, you were examined by the state's attorney on a number of issues. One of the issues that the state's attorney asked you is if these kids, the friends of both Cooper and your daughter, went to the Schultz Corporation on a number of occasions. Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:20:43):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:20:44):

All right. And do you remember why they would go to the Schultz Corporation on a number of occasions, if you know?

Lynn R. (02:20:52):

It was a place to hang out.

Martin Minella (02:20:54):

And drink?

Lynn R. (02:20:56):

I would assume so.

Martin Minella (02:20:57):

Thank you. Now, you talked about texts that came between you and Sophie that evening, right?

Lynn R. (02:21:08):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:21:08):

May 20th?

Lynn R. (02:21:08):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:21:08):

Okay. '23?

Lynn R. (02:21:12):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:21:13):

And do you remember, you testified when Cooper picked your daughter up, do you know where they went after that?

Lynn R. (02:21:24):

I didn't know at the time.

Martin Minella (02:21:26):

But do you know now?

Lynn R. (02:21:27):

But I know now.

Martin Minella (02:21:28):

Where did they go?

Lynn R. (02:21:30):

They went to Savan Cristo Sergo's house. They went to Walmart. They went to a package store.

Martin Minella (02:21:41):

And do you know what package store they went to?

Lynn R. (02:21:44):

Somewhere in Bristol. I don't remember the name of it.

Martin Minella (02:21:47):

And did you have any personal knowledge at the time there were package stores in the area that didn't card?

Lynn R. (02:21:58):

I would assume it was the same way as when I was growing up, so I would assume that there were package stores.

Martin Minella (02:22:04):

I really don't want you to assume. Did you have personal knowledge-

Lynn R. (02:22:07):

Of which package stores they went to? No.

Martin Minella (02:22:10):

Who is Sydney?

Lynn R. (02:22:12):

My niece.

Martin Minella (02:22:13):

All right. Did you have personal knowledge that Sydney and your daughter often went to package stores that did not card?

Lynn R. (02:22:22):

Not until after.

Martin Minella (02:22:25):

Do you know now they did?

Lynn R. (02:22:26):

I know now.

Martin Minella (02:22:27):

Okay. And how is it that you know now and you didn't know before?

Lynn R. (02:22:33):

Because she's my niece, and I talked to her.

Martin Minella (02:22:38):

You knew that your daughter Sophie had a drinking problem?

Lynn R. (02:22:44):

No.

Martin Minella (02:22:44):

You didn't?

Lynn R. (02:22:45):

No.

Martin Minella (02:22:47):

Do you remember at 8:38 on that evening texting anything to your daughter?

Lynn R. (02:22:54):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (02:22:55):

Objection.

Chris Pelosi (02:22:58):

What's your objections?

Attorney Watson (02:22:59):

May I just have a moment with counsel?

Chris Pelosi (02:23:00):

You may. Please mute your button.

Speaker 5 (02:23:02):

Hit the button, please. Hit the button.

Attorney Watson (02:23:21):

Thank you. I'll remove the objection.

Martin Minella (02:23:23):

All right, and at-

Chris Pelosi (02:23:26):

Ask the question again, attorney.

Martin Minella (02:23:28):

Do you remember at 8:38 texting your daughter Sophie and saying, "And by the way, try to control your drinking this evening"? Do you remember that text?

Lynn R. (02:23:38):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:23:39):

All right. So, you sent that?

Lynn R. (02:23:41):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:23:42):

Is there a reason... You knew she was going to the Schultz Corporation, correct?

Lynn R. (02:23:46):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:23:48):

And you knew there was going to be drinking there, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:23:51):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:23:53):

And in fact, before Cooper or Sophie had a driver's license, did you often drive them to different locations?

Lynn R. (02:24:04):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:24:05):

And did you drive them to locations where you knew alcohol may be served?

Lynn R. (02:24:11):

No.

Martin Minella (02:24:12):

No. Okay. And did Sophie respond to you in a text when you said, "Try to control your drinking this evening"?

Lynn R. (02:24:27):

That night?

Martin Minella (02:24:28):

Yeah, that night when you texted her that.

Lynn R. (02:24:30):

Did she respond to me?

Martin Minella (02:24:31):

Yes.

Lynn R. (02:24:33):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:24:34):

Pardon?

Lynn R. (02:24:35):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:24:35):

And what did she say?

Lynn R. (02:24:37):

"I'll try," or something like that.

Martin Minella (02:24:40):

What did that indicate to you, that she would try?

Lynn R. (02:24:43):

She was a very sarcastic girl, so it was just a banter back and forth.

Martin Minella (02:24:51):

Now, you were also asked a question about Life360, many questions, I imagine.

Lynn R. (02:25:03):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:25:04):

All right.

Chris Pelosi (02:25:04):

Can you rephrase Life360 from the police or from Attorney Watson?

Martin Minella (02:25:08):

From the state.

Chris Pelosi (02:25:08):

Okay.

Lynn R. (02:25:08):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:25:13):

And you had Life360 on your phone, and you had bought a new phone for your daughter, and she had Life360, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:25:21):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:25:25):

Now, you also testified when the state asked you about if Cooper had helped to carry Sophie into your husband's truck, and you said no. Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:25:39):

Into my husband's car, yes.

Martin Minella (02:25:41):

All right. Do you remember giving a statement to the Connecticut State Police on 6/29 of '23 where you said to the Connecticut State Police that Cooper had helped you carry your daughter into the back of your husband's car? Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:26:00):

I know he was there walking with us.

Martin Minella (02:26:04):

That's not the question.

Lynn R. (02:26:06):

Do I remember giving that statement?

Martin Minella (02:26:08):

Do you remember telling the state police on 6/29/23 that Cooper had helped you and your husband carry Sophie into the truck?

Lynn R. (02:26:18):

If it was in my statement a month after she passed, then that is what I said.

Martin Minella (02:26:25):

Okay, so really your memory two or two and a half years ago is better than your memory today. Is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:26:33):

On some things.

Martin Minella (02:26:36):

Yes. Now, you also testified on Exhibit 4, State's Exhibit 4. Can you put that up please? Do you remember seeing a flashing light... And that subsequently learned from Cooper that your daughter told Cooper she had to throw up, and he put on his signal light and pulled over so she could throw up. Do you remember that?

Attorney Watson (02:28:50):

Call for a hearsay response.

Chris Pelosi (02:28:53):

Stand please.

Attorney Watson (02:28:54):

We call for a hearsay response.

Chris Pelosi (02:28:56):

As to what Cooper said?

Martin Minella (02:28:58):

What she observed and what she... It's all-

Chris Pelosi (02:29:01):

What she heard is one separate issue. What was said is hearsay.

Martin Minella (02:29:06):

Okay.

Chris Pelosi (02:29:07):

So, I'll sustain it.

Martin Minella (02:29:10):

So, you were asked about Cooper, okay, what he said to you, remember?

Lynn R. (02:29:16):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:29:18):

And when Cooper came down the driveway short time later, you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:29:24):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:29:24):

And do you remember Cooper in that photograph or your Ring camera, do you remember Cooper trying to get your daughter out of the car?

Lynn R. (02:29:38):

I saw him propping her up. I'm not sure he was trying to get her out.

Martin Minella (02:29:43):

Okay. And do you remember Cooper running into your house?

Lynn R. (02:29:48):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:29:49):

And you remember Cooper calling your name, Lynne?

Lynn R. (02:29:53):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:29:54):

All right. And do you remember at the time, at that specific time, you did not think your daughter was seriously injured, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:30:06):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:30:08):

In fact, what you observed and you testified to was an abrasion, like a road rash on her face, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:30:18):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:30:21):

I believe you said Lila called 911?

Lynn R. (02:30:23):

Layla.

Martin Minella (02:30:24):

Layla called 911, and the 911 went to where?

Lynn R. (02:30:30):

Farmington.

Martin Minella (02:30:31):

Farmington. And is there a reason why you did not wait for the ambulance to come and take your daughter to a hospital?

Lynn R. (02:30:43):

Because they couldn't tell me how long they were going to be.

Martin Minella (02:30:47):

If you knew she was that seriously hurt, if you later found out, would've you waited for an ambulance to come?

Lynn R. (02:30:55):

Well, I would've given more information to dispatch.

Martin Minella (02:31:00):

But the question I'm asking you now, if you knew that your daughter was seriously injured, would you have taken her by yourself and your husband to the hospital in Bristol?

Lynn R. (02:31:15):

I would have waited to see how long they said if LIFE STAR was going to come. There's a lot of what-ifs that run through my head every day.

‍

Martin Minella (02:31:28):

And isn't it true that you thought that, basically, she was drunk, and she had to get her stomach pumped at the hospital, and she'd be okay?

Lynn R. (02:31:41):

Based on the information that I was given, yes, that's what I believed.

Martin Minella (02:31:45):

Okay. That's what you believed. And when you went to the hospital, you rode in the back seat of the car?

Lynn R. (02:31:55):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:31:55):

And your daughter was in the back seat with you?

Lynn R. (02:31:58):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:32:00):

Okay. Now, state's attorney asked you, at some point in time, did the Connecticut State Police come to Bristol Hospital?

Lynn R. (02:32:09):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:32:10):

And that, unfortunately, was after your daughter had passed, correct?

Lynn R. (02:32:13):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:32:15):

And were you informed by the Connecticut State Police that, although they weren't taking a written statement of you at that time, that they had a film that they were taping from their body camera?

Lynn R. (02:32:28):

I don't remember.

Martin Minella (02:32:28):

You don't remember. Did you ever look at that film?

Lynn R. (02:32:32):

I don't believe so.

Martin Minella (02:32:34):

You never looked at the film at the hospital?

Lynn R. (02:32:35):

The film of their body camera?

Martin Minella (02:32:37):

The film of their body cams that showed the conversations that they had with you at the hospital shortly after your daughter passed.

Lynn R. (02:32:48):

I don't recall ever seeing that.

Martin Minella (02:32:53):

Let me ask you something. Your memory, I know you were upset, but your memory was better then than it is today, isn't it fair to say?

Lynn R. (02:33:00):

Well, it depends. I mean, I know what happened that night.

Martin Minella (02:33:05):

Do you remember saying when they asked you about her physical condition and if she said anything or how she reacted as far as physically? You told them at that time that she was moaning.

Lynn R. (02:33:26):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:33:28):

You remember that?

Lynn R. (02:33:28):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:33:28):

And I believe you testified earlier that what you remember is her saying Coop. Is that your testimony?

Lynn R. (02:33:37):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:33:38):

Isn't it a fact that you told the state police at the hospital on the way to the hospital, she said to you, "Cooper, I have to vomit," on two occasions? Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:33:54):

I don't, but if that's on body cam, then I will take your word for it.

Martin Minella (02:33:57):

Okay. Now, I'm going to skip around a little. You testified you knew Cooper for about three and a half years.

Lynn R. (02:34:12):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:34:12):

Is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:34:12):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:34:14):

And, basically, that was when your daughter and Cooper were 13 years old?

Lynn R. (02:34:19):

I believe Sophie was 14 at the time.

Martin Minella (02:34:21):

He was a few months older than your daughter?

Lynn R. (02:34:24):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:34:24):

Okay. So, they didn't go to the same school, did they?

Lynn R. (02:34:28):

No.

Martin Minella (02:34:30):

All right. They didn't live in the same town?

Lynn R. (02:34:33):

No.

Martin Minella (02:34:34):

Do you know how they met?

Lynn R. (02:34:35):

Through Cooper's brother, Finn.

Martin Minella (02:34:38):

And do you know when they met?

Lynn R. (02:34:42):

Well, when? In 2019.

Martin Minella (02:34:46):

Okay. So-

Lynn R. (02:34:47):

Late 2019.

Martin Minella (02:34:49):

So, they were 13 and 14. They surely weren't driving, correct?

Lynn R. (02:34:53):

No.

Martin Minella (02:34:54):

So, if your daughter wanted to see Cooper, isn't it a fact to say that you had to drive him to Harwinton, her rather, to Harwinton, to Cooper's house?

Lynn R. (02:35:05):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:35:07):

All right. And if Cooper wanted to come to your house, his mother had to drive him, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:35:13):

Correct. Yes.

Martin Minella (02:35:14):

So, in this three-and-a-half-year period, you and Cooper's mother developed a relationship, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:35:24):

We did.

Martin Minella (02:35:25):

You did. In fact, you said, I believe, hundreds of times you saw Cooper, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:35:31):

Over a three-and-a-half-year period, yes.

Martin Minella (02:35:33):

Okay. And you talked about your son, Tyler, being in Wyoming. Is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:35:40):

On the date of Sophie's death?

Martin Minella (02:35:43):

Yes.

Lynn R. (02:35:43):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:35:44):

Now, why was he in Wyoming?

Lynn R. (02:35:46):

That's where he lived.

Martin Minella (02:35:48):

All right. And did you have property in Wyoming?

Lynn R. (02:35:51):

No. Oh, yes, where he lives.

Martin Minella (02:35:53):

So, you owned that property?

Lynn R. (02:35:55):

We did.

Martin Minella (02:35:56):

You did. Okay. And approximately 45 to 60 days before this unfortunate incident, tragic incident, you asked Cooper to please stay at your house while the family went away to Wyoming. Is that not correct?

Lynn R. (02:36:15):

No, we went to Arizona.

Martin Minella (02:36:16):

Oh, so you went to Arizona. I'm sorry. But you asked Cooper, because no one was going to be at your house, to stay at your house?

Lynn R. (02:36:23):

Yes, to take care of the dog.

Martin Minella (02:36:25):

And take care of the dogs?

Lynn R. (02:36:26):

Mm-hmm.

Martin Minella (02:36:26):

How many dogs do you have?

Lynn R. (02:36:28):

We had one at the time. We now have two.

Martin Minella (02:36:31):

Okay. So, at the time, that time, probably 45 to 60 days before this horrific incident, you asked Cooper to stay at your house and take care of your dog and your house, correct?

Lynn R. (02:36:45):

Well, it was April.

Martin Minella (02:36:48):

It was April.

Lynn R. (02:36:48):

It was April break-

Martin Minella (02:36:49):

Okay, and-

Lynn R. (02:36:50):

... that we went to Arizona, and we needed somebody to stay with the dogs. Sophie suggested Cooper. Or the dog.

Martin Minella (02:36:56):

She suggested Cooper.

Lynn R. (02:36:57):

Right.

Martin Minella (02:36:58):

And this was about 45 days before this unfortunate incident, correct?

Lynn R. (02:37:04):

30 days, but yes.

Martin Minella (02:37:05):

30 days, so 30 days before this tragic accident, you asked Cooper to stay at your house and watch your house, correct?

Lynn R. (02:37:15):

Well, I asked him to watch the dog. He didn't have to stay at our house. He only lived five minutes away. He could have come and gone, let the dog out, gone back.

Martin Minella (02:37:22):

Did he stay at your house?

Lynn R. (02:37:25):

I don't think so.

Martin Minella (02:37:26):

No? Okay.

Lynn R. (02:37:27):

I'm not sure, though.

Martin Minella (02:37:31):

Now, May 20th, '23, do you know what day of the week that was?

Lynn R. (02:37:44):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:37:45):

What day of the week was it?

Lynn R. (02:37:46):

Saturday.

Martin Minella (02:37:47):

All right. And was there a prom that occurred that evening?

Lynn R. (02:37:52):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:37:53):

And whose prom was it?

Lynn R. (02:37:55):

Lewis Mills Senior Prom, I believe.

Martin Minella (02:37:57):

Louis Mills Senior Prom, and Sophie was a junior, correct?

Lynn R. (02:38:00):

Correct?

Martin Minella (02:38:01):

Correct. And Cooper did not go to Louis Mills, correct?

Lynn R. (02:38:04):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:38:05):

All right. And do you know... Let me withdraw that, Your Honor. Now, how long did you have a Ring camera?

Lynn R. (02:38:33):

I'm not the technology person in my house, so I don't know.

Martin Minella (02:38:37):

Not how it works, how long have you had it installed?

Lynn R. (02:38:40):

I didn't install it, so I don't know.

Martin Minella (02:38:44):

And in these State's Exhibits 1 to 4, you see Cooper, correct?

Lynn R. (02:38:51):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:38:52):

And you're in close proximity to Cooper, is that not correct?

Lynn R. (02:38:57):

Am I in close proximity to Cooper? When are we talking about?

Martin Minella (02:39:01):

On the night in question. When Cooper comes down your driveway, and Sophie is delivered to your house, and Cooper is next to you in the car, his truck rather, okay, and Cooper was there when you called 911, is that not correct?

Lynn R. (02:39:21):

I believe I was inside when I called 911.

Martin Minella (02:39:23):

But Cooper was there also?

Lynn R. (02:39:25):

Cooper was at my house, yes.

Martin Minella (02:39:27):

Yes. Okay. And do you remember saying that you did not smell any alcohol on Cooper's breath that night?

Lynn R. (02:39:36):

I did not.

Martin Minella (02:39:37):

You did not. Now, obviously, you took a big interest in this case, is that not correct?

Lynn R. (02:39:57):

Did I take a big interest?

Martin Minella (02:39:58):

[inaudible 02:39:59].

Lynn R. (02:40:01):

I'm not sure. What do you mean by big interest?

Martin Minella (02:40:04):

Okay, let me withdraw that question. Every time this case was in court, for any reason, you were here.

Lynn R. (02:40:11):

Absolutely.

Martin Minella (02:40:12):

Is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:40:12):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:40:14):

And during the course of the police investigation, you had multiple encounters with the state police.

Lynn R. (02:40:22):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:40:24):

And is it true that the state police did not obtain an arrest warrant for Cooper until 10 months after this incident?

Lynn R. (02:40:36):

I don't know the exact date, but it took quite a while.

Martin Minella (02:40:39):

And you talked to the state police on numerous occasions, correct?

Lynn R. (02:40:45):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:40:46):

And do you know who the lead investigator was?

Lynn R. (02:40:48):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:40:54):

And it was Detective Slavey, wasn't it?

Lynn R. (02:40:55):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:40:57):

And you talked to Detective Slavey on the 21st of May, 2023, correct?

Lynn R. (02:41:01):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:41:02):

And you talked to him again on June 14th of '23.

Lynn R. (02:41:10):

I don't know the exact dates that I talked to him.

Martin Minella (02:41:12):

And on that date, did he take you alone in your room and not only photograph the interview or record the interview, he had a statement that he took? Remember that?

Lynn R. (02:41:26):

In my room?

Martin Minella (02:41:28):

In your room, you laying on the bed?

Lynn R. (02:41:32):

Nope.

Martin Minella (02:41:33):

You don't remember that? Okay.

Lynn R. (02:41:34):

No.

Martin Minella (02:41:36):

And-

Chris Pelosi (02:41:36):

We're talking about Bristol Hospital.

Martin Minella (02:41:38):

Right.

Chris Pelosi (02:41:41):

Okay.

Lynn R. (02:41:42):

We're talking about Bristol Hospital?

Martin Minella (02:41:43):

No, not Bristol Hospital. I'm sorry, Your Honor. We're talking about on 6/14/23, Officer Slavey took a written statement because he didn't take a written statement at the hospital.

Lynn R. (02:41:54):

No, he did not.

Martin Minella (02:41:55):

You told him, "We'll take the written statement later." Is that not correct?

Lynn R. (02:41:59):

I don't know whose suggestion it was to do it later.

Martin Minella (02:42:03):

But on 6/14, Detective Slavey went to your house, and took a statement from you, and recorded a statement. Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:42:17):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:42:18):

And that statement was about two hours long. Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:42:21):

No.

Martin Minella (02:42:22):

You don't? Was it lengthy?

Lynn R. (02:42:24):

I would assume so.

Martin Minella (02:42:26):

I don't want you to assume with all due respect.

Lynn R. (02:42:28):

Well, my statement's nine pages, so I don't know how long it took.

Martin Minella (02:42:30):

Pardon?

Lynn R. (02:42:31):

I don't know how long it took.

Martin Minella (02:42:33):

Okay. But it was for more than an hour, wasn't it?

Lynn R. (02:42:36):

I don't know how long it took.

Martin Minella (02:42:37):

Okay. And again, on 6/29/23, Officer Slavey came again to your house, and I believe not only you were there, other members of your family were there. Do you remember that date?

Lynn R. (02:42:56):

No, I don't remember dates well.

Martin Minella (02:43:01):

And you don't remember when the state police got a warrant, is that your testimony?

Lynn R. (02:43:10):

Do I remember the exact date that they got an arrest warrant?

Martin Minella (02:43:15):

Yes.

Lynn R. (02:43:16):

No.

Martin Minella (02:43:16):

You remember that it was 10 months-

Lynn R. (02:43:17):

At least.

Martin Minella (02:43:17):

... after the incident?

Lynn R. (02:43:17):

At least.

Martin Minella (02:43:27):

At least. All right. And before Detective Slavey got that warrant, did you review that warrant?

Lynn R. (02:43:31):

No.

Martin Minella (02:43:33):

You never looked at it? He never told you what he was putting in the warrant?

Lynn R. (02:43:37):

I didn't see the warrant until it came out-

Martin Minella (02:43:40):

Okay.

Lynn R. (02:43:41):

... that morning when we were coming to court.

Martin Minella (02:43:43):

So, when that warrant came out, all right, and you went to court, do you remember how many times that warrant recited the fact, because now you know what it is, that your daughter exited this vehicle on Route 72, the first time?

Attorney Watson (02:44:04):

Relevance.

Martin Minella (02:44:05):

I think it is relevant, Your Honor. It wouldn't be tied up [inaudible 02:44:09].

Attorney Watson (02:44:10):

She's not the author of the warrant. For her to comment on what is written in the warrant would be inappropriate.

Chris Pelosi (02:44:14):

You don't have to ask her what's in the warrant. You could question her if she knows what happened at Locust or 72 Locust. That's the same.

Martin Minella (02:44:23):

As far as you're concerned, when she exited the vehicle the first time, it was on Route 72.

Lynn R. (02:44:34):

Is Route 72 and Locust Road the same road?

Martin Minella (02:44:45):

I don't believe so, but maybe they are. I don't know. I don't know. Isn't Route 72 a different highway, and Locust Road... Have you ever been to Locust Road?

Lynn R. (02:44:49):

I have.

Martin Minella (02:44:50):

It's a very rural area with trees, and not-

Lynn R. (02:44:54):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:44:56):

... many houses, and rocks, and boulders. Is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:45:00):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:45:00):

Pardon?

Lynn R. (02:45:01):

Yes, I believe so. I don't travel it frequently.

Martin Minella (02:45:04):

How many times have you been on Locust Road?

Lynn R. (02:45:04):

Maybe twice.

Martin Minella (02:45:05):

Twice. And would you say that it is a rural road?

Lynn R. (02:45:06):

Well, I don't know how long Locust Road is. I don't know what part of Locust Road you're referring to, so I can't answer your question. I know the highway department's on Locust Road.

Martin Minella (02:45:27):

Well, at some point in time, your daughter was alleged to have exited the truck of Cooper Ouellette.

Lynn R. (02:45:36):

On Locust Road.

Martin Minella (02:45:38):

On Locust Road, correct?

Lynn R. (02:45:39):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:45:40):

Not Route 72.

Lynn R. (02:45:40):

I don't believe so.

Martin Minella (02:45:57):

No. May I just have a moment, Your Honor?

Chris Pelosi (02:46:00):

Take your time.

Martin Minella (02:46:00):

Were you ever told by the state police that they had the wrong route, road where Sophie exited the vehicle the first time? Did they ever tell you-

Lynn R. (02:46:19):

That they had it wrong?

Martin Minella (02:46:21):

Yeah, they had the wrong road. They had Route 72, and it was Locust Road.

Lynn R. (02:46:28):

They told me that the route he took home to get to our house didn't make sense. That's not the most direct route to get to our house.

Martin Minella (02:46:38):

But did you find out later that when she exited the vehicle the first time that it was on Locust Road?

Lynn R. (02:46:45):

Yes, I found that out later.

Martin Minella (02:46:51):

And when did you find that out?

Lynn R. (02:46:52):

I don't remember.

Martin Minella (02:46:53):

And you used Life360 on a number of occasions, correct?

Lynn R. (02:47:01):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:47:02):

Do you remember an occasion when your daughter was sitting right next to you, and Life360 said she was a mile away? Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:47:09):

No.

Martin Minella (02:47:09):

You don't remember that?

Lynn R. (02:47:13):

No.

Martin Minella (02:47:17):

Do you remember when Life360... Can you describe what Life360 is to the jury?

Lynn R. (02:47:23):

It's a tracking app that, if you pay a subscription, you can see the speed, hard braking, location, if somebody gets in an accident, and you can track to see where your family members are.

Martin Minella (02:47:44):

Did you ever go to the Life360 app or website?

Lynn R. (02:47:48):

I think I just used the app.

Martin Minella (02:47:55):

Doesn't the app say that Life360 should never be used to track speed, location, distance? Do you remember a warning that Life360 puts out?

Lynn R. (02:48:10):

No, I wouldn't read the disclosure. I would just download the app and track my kids.

Martin Minella (02:48:18):

Would it surprise you if Life360 does not say that it could tell how fast the vehicle was going?

Lynn R. (02:48:27):

Well, I only know that now because I sat in this courtroom and listened to the testimony.

Martin Minella (02:48:32):

So, you sat in this courtroom, listened to the testimony, and you now know that Life360, there's certain things that it can't do, don't you?

Lynn R. (02:48:41):

That it can't do?

Martin Minella (02:48:43):

Yes.

Lynn R. (02:48:44):

Well, I assume that Life360 can't do a lot of things, but I know what it can do.

Martin Minella (02:48:51):

What it can't do, or it can't track speed, location, or braking as you just testified to.

Attorney Watson (02:49:01):

Objection at this point. All right, she's not a Life360 expert.

Chris Pelosi (02:49:04):

There's no foundation. She's a user. She uses the app. She's not an expert in Life360. That's sustained.

Martin Minella (02:49:17):

Do you know who Tyler Schultz is?

Lynn R. (02:49:18):

I do.

Martin Minella (02:49:20):

Who is he?

Lynn R. (02:49:21):

He is the person that hosted the party on that night and where they went on a number of occasions.

Martin Minella (02:49:34):

And on May 20th, that evening, the party was at Tyler Schultz's grandfather's, I believe.

Lynn R. (02:49:46):

I have come to find that out that, yes, he is the one that owns the shop.

Martin Minella (02:49:50):

Okay. Now, do you remember filing a lawsuit in the judicial district of New Britain?

Martin Minella (02:50:00):

... the Judicial District of New Britain where you're suing six individuals for the death of your daughter.

Lynn R. (02:50:11):

I don't know how many, but yes, I am involved in the civil case.

Martin Minella (02:50:16):

And it's your testimony you don't know how many people you're suing?

Lynn R. (02:50:19):

I'll count. Hold on a second. Six.

Martin Minella (02:50:27):

Six people you're suing?

Lynn R. (02:50:29):

Well, not people, but there are six defendants, yes.

Martin Minella (02:50:43):

May I have a moment, Your Honor?

The Court (02:50:44):

You may.

Martin Minella (02:50:44):

Did you read your lawsuit?

Lynn R. (02:50:44):

I did.

Martin Minella (02:51:14):

And who did you read it with?

Lynn R. (02:51:18):

Who did I read it with?

Martin Minella (02:51:20):

Yes.

Lynn R. (02:51:20):

My civil attorney sent it to me and I read it.

Martin Minella (02:51:23):

And you read it. So you know one of the allegations is your daughter was walking on, what is it, Field View, the name of the street by your house?

Lynn R. (02:51:36):

Yes, that's the street we live on.

Martin Minella (02:51:37):

That your daughter was walking on Field View and Cooper then struck her with his vehicle while she was walking.

Lynn R. (02:51:48):

I have not read that lawsuit in a very long time. So if you would like to show me a copy of the complaint, I would be happy to reread it.

Martin Minella (02:52:01):

So you said you were sent the lawsuit and you read it. It's an allegation against Cooper. You're suing him along with five other people for money.

Lynn R. (02:52:10):

I didn't draft the lawsuit.

Martin Minella (02:52:12):

I know you didn't draft it, but you read it.

Lynn R. (02:52:14):

I did read it.

Martin Minella (02:52:15):

Right. And in that lawsuit, you alleged that your daughter was walking on Field View. And who prevented-

Lynn R. (02:52:24):

Again, I don't know. I don't have it in front of me.

Martin Minella (02:52:26):

Okay.

Lynn R. (02:52:27):

I don't have the complaint in front of me, so I can't-

Martin Minella (02:52:31):

You remember?

Lynn R. (02:52:32):

I don't remember what the complaint says.

Martin Minella (02:52:34):

Do you remember saying that Cooper struck her with the truck while she was walking?

Lynn R. (02:52:40):

No, I don't remember.

Martin Minella (02:52:54):

Okay. And do you remember meeting with a Detective Slaby and Detective Slaby telling you that it wasn't Route 72 where your daughter exited the vehicle the first time, it was Locust Road. Do you remember that meeting?

Lynn R. (02:53:13):

I don't.

Martin Minella (02:53:17):

You don't, okay. And do you remember the state police telling you that they then, 11 months after this occurrence, did a forensic examination of Locust Road? Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (02:53:30):

I don't.

Martin Minella (02:53:30):

Do you remember telling Officer Slaby telling you the only thing we found was a vape?

Mr. Clifton (02:53:35):

This calls for all hearsay responses.

The Court (02:53:38):

It is. There's no personal knowledge. That's sustained. It's what Slaby is telling her that is hearsay. She didn't do the investigation.

Martin Minella (02:53:58):

I'll withdraw. Do you remember on that video at the hospital on the 21st of May 2023 telling the police that Cooper had reported that Sophie had a lot to drink? Do you remember telling the police that?

Mr. Clifton (02:54:17):

Object to the form of the question. The witness has already testified she's not aware of a video at the hospital.

The Court (02:54:22):

Yeah, there's no... I didn't hear any testimony about a video at a hospital yet.

Martin Minella (02:54:27):

Well, do you remember a video? What you saw-

The Court (02:54:29):

Hang on. That's sustained. If you want to rephrase the question.

Martin Minella (02:54:32):

Do you remember that the police told you, whether you reviewed it or not, that they weren't taking a statement but they were going to take a video? Do you remember that?

The Court (02:54:41):

Stop.

Martin Minella (02:54:42):

That you viewed it?

Mr. Clifton (02:54:43):

This calls for a hearsay response again.

The Court (02:54:46):

What are you asking, Attorney Minnella?

Martin Minella (02:54:48):

I'm asking her the video if she knew that she was being videotaped by the state police at the hospital. That's all.

The Court (02:54:56):

Yes or no, that calls for a yes or no.

Lynn R. (02:54:58):

I don't remember. My daughter just died. I don't remember.

Martin Minella (02:55:03):

I understand that. Do you remember telling anybody that Sophie had opened the door and fallen out of the truck?

Lynn R. (02:55:18):

No.

Martin Minella (02:55:20):

No, okay. Now you testified about a number of conversations you had either by phone or by text with Cooper.

Lynn R. (02:55:34):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:55:34):

How many were they?

Lynn R. (02:55:36):

I had one phone call with him. I called him from the hospital, then he had texted me twice.

Martin Minella (02:55:49):

And Cooper was concerned about your daughter's condition.

Mr. Clifton (02:55:52):

Call for speculation. How would she know what Cooper was concerned about?

The Court (02:55:56):

Let's give her a little leeway. Overruled.

Martin Minella (02:55:59):

Can you answer that question?

Lynn R. (02:56:00):

He asked if she was okay.

Martin Minella (02:56:06):

So Cooper did not know on the evening of... If you know, he did not know that your daughter had passed that evening at six o'clock in the morning, did he?

Mr. Clifton (02:56:20):

How would she know what Cooper would know?

The Court (02:56:22):

Base your objection. What's your objection? Speculation?

Mr. Clifton (02:56:24):

Yes.

The Court (02:56:25):

Sustained.

Speaker 6 (02:56:29):

Are you aware-

Martin Minella (02:56:30):

Are you aware that Cooper did not know? Are you aware that Cooper did not know that your daughter had passed that evening?

Mr. Clifton (02:56:38):

Same objection, speculation.

The Court (02:56:40):

It does call for speculation of what he knew. Sustained.

Martin Minella (02:57:05):

June 14th of '23, do you remember Officer Slaby, I think I asked you this, but do you remember him coming to your house and taking a statement from you?

Lynn R. (02:57:19):

Is that the date on my statement?

Martin Minella (02:57:21):

Yeah.

Lynn R. (02:57:22):

Then I can only take your word for it that it was June 14th.

Martin Minella (02:57:27):

And you were interviewed by Detective Slaby, correct?

Lynn R. (02:57:30):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:57:39):

And you, at that point in time showed him Sophie's Life360 app?

Lynn R. (02:57:45):

I don't recall when it was that I showed him.

Martin Minella (02:58:02):

Okay. You were given Sophie's telephone or cell phone by Cooper that evening, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:58:11):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:58:12):

Do you remember Cooper going up to the road and trying to locate the cell phone?

Lynn R. (02:58:19):

To move his truck?

Martin Minella (02:58:21):

No. Yes, with the truck.

Lynn R. (02:58:23):

When I asked him to move his truck, I remember him backing out the driveway and moving his truck, yes.

Martin Minella (02:58:28):

And he came back a short time later with the cell phone of Sophie?

Lynn R. (02:58:34):

I don't remember when it was that he gave me the cell phone.

Martin Minella (02:58:38):

But that evening he handed you her cell phone?

Lynn R. (02:58:41):

He did.

Martin Minella (02:58:42):

And that's the cell phone you handed to the state police?

Lynn R. (02:58:45):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:58:53):

And the Ring camera shows Cooper running into the house, correct, to get you or your husband?

Lynn R. (02:59:01):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:59:11):

And do you remember hearing that evening that Sophie had to throw up?

Mr. Clifton (02:59:15):

My objection would be as to the timeframe. I think that needs to be narrowed down.

Martin Minella (02:59:23):

That evening from 11:50 to the time you left to go to Bristol Hospital, do you remember hearing that she had had to throw up?

Lynn R. (02:59:32):

I remember Cooper telling me that she had to throw up.

Martin Minella (02:59:37):

And in fact, Cooper didn't ride to the hospital with you. Scott drove, is that correct?

Lynn R. (02:59:43):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:59:44):

You rode in the back-

Lynn R. (02:59:45):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:59:46):

... with her?

Lynn R. (02:59:46):

Correct.

Martin Minella (02:59:47):

And you were concerned about her condition?

Lynn R. (02:59:54):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:59:56):

And she moaned, testified to?

Lynn R. (02:59:59):

Yes.

Martin Minella (02:59:59):

Right. And she also said to you, "Cooper, I have to throw up." And you said to her, "Here's the towel. Throw up in the towel." Do you remember that?

Lynn R. (03:00:12):

If that's what I said. There was a towel on the floor.

Martin Minella (03:00:15):

Okay. At 11:44 that evening, they had not come home, is that correct?

Lynn R. (03:00:39):

Correct.

Martin Minella (03:00:40):

All right. Do you remember looking at your Life360 app at 11:41 that evening?

Lynn R. (03:00:50):

I looked at it at some point.

Martin Minella (03:00:52):

Yeah. Do you remember it showed Sophie in two different places on that app?

Lynn R. (03:00:57):

No.

Martin Minella (03:00:58):

You don't remember that?

Lynn R. (03:00:59):

I don't remember that.

Martin Minella (03:01:01):

Did you ever tell any law enforcement that that happened?

Lynn R. (03:01:04):

I have no idea.

Martin Minella (03:01:06):

You don't remember?

Lynn R. (03:01:07):

I just remember looking at the Life360, seeing that she was in our neighborhood and assumed she would be home at any minute.

Martin Minella (03:01:24):

And besides the road rash, I believe you testified she had chipped teeth, that's what you observed?

Lynn R. (03:01:31):

A chipped top tooth and a bottom tooth that looked like it was about to fall out.

Martin Minella (03:01:58):

Do you remember a text at 12:36 AM from Cooper to you?

Lynn R. (03:02:07):

I would need more information. You're saying 12:36?

Martin Minella (03:02:11):

Well, roughly around that time. Do you remember receiving a text from Cooper?

The Court (03:02:15):

That calls for a yes or no at this point.

Mr. Clifton (03:02:18):

I think it needs to be clarified as to the date.

Speaker 6 (03:02:20):

12:36 that evening.

Martin Minella (03:02:21):

12:21. 12:36, 12:21.

Lynn R. (03:02:27):

There were a couple text messages.

The Court (03:02:30):

Wait, hang on. You said 12:36 and then 12:21?

Martin Minella (03:02:35):

12:36, Your Honor, that's the time. The date is May 21st.

The Court (03:02:39):

Okay.

Martin Minella (03:02:39):

Do you remember receiving a text from Cooper?

Lynn R. (03:02:45):

I remember receiving a text from Cooper. I don't remember the exact time.

Martin Minella (03:02:49):

Okay. And not what you said, but you responded to that text, correct?

Lynn R. (03:02:49):

Yes.

Martin Minella (03:02:49):

May I just have a moment, Your Honor?

The Court (03:02:49):

Take your time.

Martin Minella (03:03:51):

Do you remember on the night of May 20th, 2023, how many times did you talk or text with Sophie?

Lynn R. (03:03:58):

Do I remember how many times?

Martin Minella (03:04:00):

Yes.

Lynn R. (03:04:00):

No. Quite a few.

Martin Minella (03:04:01):

Okay. So if you look at your Life360, correct? Did you look at it that night you were waiting for Sophie to come home, is that correct?

Lynn R. (03:04:19):

Correct.

Martin Minella (03:04:21):

And isn't it true that when you looked at your Life360, your Life360 told you she never left the Schultz's party?

Lynn R. (03:04:33):

That she never... I saw her on our street.

Martin Minella (03:04:38):

At some point you saw her on your street, but if you look at your Life360, the Life360 showed... They call them trips, don't they? When somebody leaves one location, if you know.

Lynn R. (03:04:52):

I believe that's what they're called, yes.

Martin Minella (03:04:54):

And you know your Life360, after you looked at it, showed you that your daughter, Sophie, never left Schultz's party.

Lynn R. (03:05:07):

I am not understanding your question.

Martin Minella (03:05:10):

So you have Life360.

Lynn R. (03:05:11):

I do.

Martin Minella (03:05:13):

An app that you shared with your daughter, correct?

Lynn R. (03:05:13):

Correct.

Martin Minella (03:05:16):

And you have referred to it on a number of occasions here on your direct and cross-examination. Now, I know you're not an expert in the technology, but you looked at it many times that evening. Is that correct?

Lynn R. (03:05:31):

I would not say that I looked at it many times, no.

Martin Minella (03:05:34):

Well, you were concerned because your daughter had an 11:30 curfew, correct?

Lynn R. (03:05:39):

Correct.

Martin Minella (03:05:40):

And it was 11:44 and she still wasn't home?

Lynn R. (03:05:44):

Correct.

Martin Minella (03:05:46):

So didn't you then look at your Life360?

Lynn R. (03:05:47):

Yes.

Martin Minella (03:05:51):

And didn't your Life360 show you that she never left Schultz's party, that she was still there?

Lynn R. (03:05:58):

No, it showed me that she was on Field View Drive.

Martin Minella (03:06:24):

Now, were you aware... You know who Detective Bronson is? Do you remember meeting Detective Bronson?

Lynn R. (03:06:33):

Does he have a first name?

Martin Minella (03:06:38):

Can I have a moment?

The Court (03:06:39):

Yes.

Martin Minella (03:06:44):

One second, Marty.

(03:06:49)
Spencer, it is. Do you remember meeting-

The Court (03:06:51):

Spencer Bronson?

Martin Minella (03:06:52):

Spencer Bronson.

Lynn R. (03:06:55):

You would have to give me some context as to where I met him.

Martin Minella (03:06:58):

Do you remember if the Connecticut State Police and Spencer Bronson did an accident reconstruction of what happened that night?

Lynn R. (03:07:11):

I know that they did. I don't know who specifically did it.

Martin Minella (03:07:16):

Did you ever hear of a Sergeant DiChico?

Lynn R. (03:07:17):

A Sergeant who?

Martin Minella (03:07:19):

DiChico.

Lynn R. (03:07:23):

Is he the second sergeant that took over?

Martin Minella (03:07:26):

He's the sergeant that's over Bronson on the accident reconstruction division of the state police.

Lynn R. (03:07:35):

I don't know.

Martin Minella (03:07:37):

So is it your testimony here that you never looked at the accident reconstruction that the state police did of this accident?

Mr. Clifton (03:07:47):

How would that be relevant?

Martin Minella (03:07:49):

It's very relevant, Your Honor.

The Court (03:07:50):

So how is it relevant?

Martin Minella (03:07:51):

It's relevant because it shows how it really happened.

The Court (03:07:57):

She's not a reconstructionist.

Martin Minella (03:07:59):

No, but she looked at it and it gave a... Your Honor, it gave their conclusion of how this accident occurred.

The Court (03:08:08):

It's their conclusion, not her conclusion.

Martin Minella (03:08:09):

I understand that, but I'm asking her if she looked at it.

Lynn R. (03:08:15):

I would have to see it again.

The Court (03:08:17):

All right. I don't see the relevance. That's sustained.

Martin Minella (03:08:19):

May I have a moment, Your Honor?

The Court (03:08:26):

You may.

Martin Minella (03:08:33):

Thank you. Appreciate it.

The Court (03:08:35):

All right. What we're going to do at this time, ladies and gentlemen, it's 12:56. Do you have an extensive redirect?

Mr. Clifton (03:08:44):

May I have one moment?

The Court (03:08:45):

You may.

Mr. Clifton (03:08:50):

I'll have longer than it'll take.

The Court (03:08:52):

All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are going to take our lunch and recess at this point. Be back in session at two o'clock sharp. Attorney Ferriola will come and get you. Enjoy your lunch. And again, I apologize, but you're going to hear this from me all the time. Please remember the rules of juror conduct I told you about at the beginning of the case. Do not discuss this case with anyone else, including the other jurors. Notebook on the chairs and enjoy your lunch.

Speaker 7 (03:24:00):

(silence)

Judge Pelosi (04:17:17):

All set. Ready for the jury?

Martin Minella (04:17:19):

Yes, Your Honor.

Judge Pelosi (04:17:19):

I don't know what they want.

Martin Minella (04:17:22):

Can we approach?

Judge Pelosi (04:17:22):

You ready, Attorney Watson?

Attorney Watson (04:17:23):

Yes.

Judge Pelosi (04:17:24):

Great. Attorney Clifton, does he need minute?

Attorney Watson (04:17:27):

[inaudible 04:17:27] in this, Your Honor.

Judge Pelosi (04:17:48):

Appreciate it.

(04:17:48)
Coming back. Ms. C., you're still under oath. We're going to bring the jury in. Okay?

Jonathan Raad (04:17:51):

Thank you.

Martin Minella (04:19:22):

Whew, it's hot. And then I'll stipulate all jurors and alternates are present for the record, Your Honor.

Judge Pelosi (04:19:26):

All right. State?

Attorney Watson (04:19:27):

Same, Your Honor. Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (04:19:28):

‍

All right, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, have a seat. Thank you. Appreciate it. Get your notebooks out. Give you some time. All right. Attorney Watson, Ms. R., you're still under oath, okay?

Lynne Ringquist (04:19:48):

Okay. Yes.

Martin Minella (04:19:48):

Thank you, Your Honor.

Attorney Watson (04:19:49):

Good afternoon.

Lynne Ringquist (04:19:50):

Good afternoon.

Attorney Watson (04:19:52):

I'm just going to ask you to scoot forward a little bit. There you go. Thank you.

(04:19:56)
Did you learn what liquor store Cooper Ouellette stopped at before you went to the Sheriff Corporation?

Lynne Ringquist (04:20:02):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:20:03):

And what liquor store was that?

Lynne Ringquist (04:20:04):

Edgewood Wine and Spirits.

Attorney Watson (04:20:06):

And bless you, whoever sneezed. And the video that you showed the State police when you were in the hospital with your daughter and you were speaking to the... I'm sorry, when you were in the hospital speaking with the State police, do you recall that?

Lynne Ringquist (04:20:20):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:20:21):

Did you learn as to where that video was taken?

Lynne Ringquist (04:20:25):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:20:25):

And where was that?

Lynne Ringquist (04:20:26):

Locust Road.

Attorney Watson (04:20:29):

You were asked on cross-examination if you recall Cooper Ouellette sending you a text indicating if Sophie's okay.

Lynne Ringquist (04:20:37):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:20:37):

Do you recall that?

Lynne Ringquist (04:20:38):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:20:39):

Okay. And after you received that text message, what did you reply?

Lynne Ringquist (04:20:43):

I replied, "No. She has four or five nurses working on her getting x-rays." And I'm not sure what else I said.

Attorney Watson (04:20:53):

Okay. And did you ever hear from Cooper Ouellette that evening after you sent that text message?

Lynne Ringquist (04:21:00):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:21:03):

Now, at... I'm sorry, you had indicated that you had texted Sophie, "Where are you?" Do you recall?

Lynne Ringquist (04:21:10):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:21:11):

Before you texted Sophie, "Where are you?" Did you send her another text message briefly before that?

Lynne Ringquist (04:21:17):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:21:19):

And do you recall what you texted to your daughter?

Lynne Ringquist (04:21:23):

The one right before that?

Attorney Watson (04:21:24):

Yes.

Lynne Ringquist (04:21:24):

"Tell Cooper not to speed."

Attorney Watson (04:21:27):

May I have one moment? I have nothing further. Thank you.

Martin Minella (04:21:38):

Thank you. I have no recross.

Judge Pelosi (04:21:43):

All right. Lynne R., thank you very much. I'm just going to ask you not to discuss your testimony with anybody, okay?

Lynne Ringquist (04:21:47):

Yes, Your Honor.

Judge Pelosi (04:21:47):

Thank you.

Attorney Watson (04:21:48):

May I, Your Honor?

Judge Pelosi (04:21:49):

Yeah.

Speaker 8 (04:21:53):

Can I be excused?

Judge Pelosi (04:21:54):

You may.

Attorney Watson (04:22:23):

And the State will call Scott R. Your Honor.

Judge Pelosi (04:22:26):

Thank you.

Attorney Watson (04:22:30):

Your Honor, before Scott R. Takes a stand, may I just indicate that he's not placed his last name on the record to him?

Judge Pelosi (04:22:36):

You may.

Attorney Watson (04:22:37):

Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (04:22:38):

Mr. R.

Attorney Watson (04:22:54):

Thank you, Your Honor.

Judge Pelosi (04:22:55):

Good afternoon. You heard Mr. Watson. We're going to refer to you as Scott R, okay? Going to have you sworn in.

Clerk (04:22:58):

Please raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear or solemnly swear or affirm as the case may be that the evidence you shall give concerning the case now in question shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God under penalty of perjury?

Scott R. (04:23:10):

I do.

Clerk (04:23:10):

And please state your first name and only the initial of your last name.

Scott R. (04:23:13):

Scott R.

Clerk (04:23:14):

And please state for the record your town of residence.

Scott R. (04:23:16):

Burlington, Connecticut.

Clerk (04:23:18):

Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (04:23:18):

Thank you, sir. Have a seat. It's a big courtroom.

Scott R. (04:23:20):

Yep.

Judge Pelosi (04:23:20):

So I just ask you to speak up, okay?

Scott R. (04:23:22):

Okay.

Judge Pelosi (04:23:22):

Thank you. Attorney Watson.

Attorney Watson (04:23:25):

Good afternoon.

Scott R. (04:23:26):

Good afternoon.

Attorney Watson (04:23:27):

Can you please tell us about your educational background?

Scott R. (04:23:30):

I graduated high school from St. Thomas Aquinas High School in 1988, and I graduated from Central Connecticut State University in 1993 with a BS in finance.

Attorney Watson (04:23:41):

Okay. And what do you currently do for a living?

Scott R. (04:23:43):

I'm self-employed contractor.

Attorney Watson (04:23:44):

And how long have you been doing that?

Scott R. (04:23:47):

Almost 30 years.

Attorney Watson (04:23:48):

And what type of company do you preside over?

Scott R. (04:23:51):

Basically, I do property management and property preservation for banks, mortgage companies, developers, and real estate companies.

Attorney Watson (04:24:11):

We'll do this old school, because the inspector has a flash drive so we have it.

Judge Pelosi (04:24:14):

Exhibit 1?

Attorney Watson (04:24:15):

Yes.

Judge Pelosi (04:24:16):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (04:24:23):

I'm showing you what we marked as State's Exhibit one. I'm going to ask you to take a look at the name and the date of birth that's on that piece of paper. And do you recognize that name and the date of birth?

Scott R. (04:24:30):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:24:30):

And is that your daughter?

Scott R. (04:24:32):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:24:32):

And what is your daughter's first name?

Scott R. (04:24:34):

Sophie.

Attorney Watson (04:24:35):

Okay. And for the remainder of your testimony, I'm going to ask that you refer to your daughter as Sophie, okay?

Scott R. (04:24:40):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (04:24:54):

Now, would your daughter, Sophie, ever work with you at your construction business?

Scott R. (04:24:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:24:58):

And what did she do when she would work with you?

Scott R. (04:25:00):

She did clean outs with me. She helped shovel snow, snow blow, mow lawns, weed whack, just any kind of property management jobs.

Attorney Watson (04:25:09):

And would she do that on more than one occasion?

Scott R. (04:25:12):

Oh, yeah.

Attorney Watson (04:25:14):

Now, are you familiar with a person named Cooper Ouellette?

Scott R. (04:25:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:25:17):

And how are you familiar with him, sir?

Scott R. (04:25:19):

Sophie was dating him.

Attorney Watson (04:25:20):

Okay. And in the time that they were dating, did Sophie and Cooper spend a lot of time together?

Scott R. (04:25:25):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:25:26):

And in that time, did Cooper Ouellette come over to your house to see Sophie during that time?

Scott R. (04:25:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:25:33):

And did he come over to your house often?

Scott R. (04:25:35):

Yes. Either to pick her up, and once in a while they'd stay probably once a week over, but yeah, he was numerous times picking her up or dropping her off.

Attorney Watson (04:25:43):

During those times that he would come over, would you converse with him?

Scott R. (04:25:47):

Yes. Not ... Oh, sorry.

Attorney Watson (04:25:49):

Go ahead.

Scott R. (04:25:49):

Not in depth kind of conversation. He'd say, "Hi Scott," or, "Hi, Mr. Ringquist."

Attorney Watson (04:25:54):

You would talk with him.

Scott R. (04:25:55):

Oh, yeah. Not in depth conversations. We were sitting down like some fathers do with their daughter's boyfriends, but we talked, yeah.

Attorney Watson (04:26:03):

Okay.

Scott R. (04:26:03):

Yes, we conversed.

Attorney Watson (04:26:04):

And what type of vehicle did you normally see Cooper Ouellette driving when he came to your house?

Scott R. (04:26:10):

A black pickup. I believe it was a Chevy Silverado like the one I have, a silver one.

Attorney Watson (04:26:15):

Okay. And do you know where Cooper lived?

Scott R. (04:26:17):

Yes. Well -

Attorney Watson (04:26:19):

Where is that, sir?

Scott R. (04:26:19):

Yes. Harmony Hill Road, but I know sometimes I heard he stayed at his father's house because his parents were divorced.

Attorney Watson (04:26:25):

Okay. Is Harmony Hill Road relatively close to where you live?

Scott R. (04:26:29):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:26:31):

And do you see Cooper Ouellette here in the courtroom today?

Scott R. (04:26:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:26:35):

And could you indicate an article of clothing that he's wearing, sir?

Scott R. (04:26:38):

A blue suit.

Judge Pelosi (04:26:40):

Record reflecting court identification.

Attorney Watson (04:26:42):

Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (04:26:43):

You can have a seat, sir.

Attorney Watson (04:26:44):

I'm going to direct your attention to May 19th of 2023.

Scott R. (04:26:46):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (04:26:49):

On May 19th of 2023, in the late evening hours, were you at your home?

Scott R. (04:26:53):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:26:54):

And were you awake around 10:00 PM that evening?

Scott R. (04:26:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:26:57):

And who else was home with you at that time?

Scott R. (04:27:00):

My wife, Lynne, my son Jackson, and his girlfriend, Layla.

Attorney Watson (04:27:04):

Okay. And did Sophie come home later in the evening after 10 o'clock?

Scott R. (04:27:09):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:27:10):

And when Sophie came home, were you still awake?

Scott R. (04:27:14):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:27:14):

And do you know who Sophie was with on May 19th of 2023?

Scott R. (04:27:19):

She was out with Cooper.

Attorney Watson (04:27:20):

Okay. And do you recall what time Sophie came home?

Scott R. (04:27:24):

It was right around 11:00. That's what her curfew was.

Attorney Watson (04:27:27):

Okay. And when Sophie came home, did you speak with her?

Scott R. (04:27:32):

Yes. We have a security system, so I can see cars coming down, so I knew she was home. I'm usually the last one upstairs to make sure the house is locked when everybody's home, unless my older sons are out, but that was typical night. I saw her come home and I said, "You know, I should go to bed." I was kind of tired. So I went up and I saw her in the kitchen, and actually she was with our dog, Roscoe, next to the floor, kneeling next to, petting him.

Attorney Watson (04:27:59):

Okay. And did you have a conversation with her?

Scott R. (04:28:02):

Yes. I said, "Good, you're home and you're not past your curfew or anything." And I said, "Get some rest because you're going to work hard tomorrow." There's a lot of stairs for her to go up and down.

Attorney Watson (04:28:11):

Okay.

Scott R. (04:28:12):

Basically like I do with all my kids when they work for me. I said, "Hey, get to some rest because I'm going to work you hard."

Attorney Watson (04:28:18):

And what time was she going to work with you that next day?

Scott R. (04:28:21):

I told her to be at the job at 8:00.

Attorney Watson (04:28:24):

Okay. And where was that job, sir?

Scott R. (04:28:26):

Simsbury, Connecticut.

Attorney Watson (04:28:27):

And what was your company doing in Simsbury, Connecticut?

Scott R. (04:28:30):

We had a bank-owned property we had to clean out and get ready for resale.

Attorney Watson (04:28:35):

Okay. And on the morning ... Now I'm going to direct your attention to May 20th of 2023, the next morning, right?

Scott R. (04:28:42):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:28:44):

In the morning of May 20th of 2023, did you go to the job site in Simsbury to work?

Scott R. (04:28:49):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:28:50):

And did you drive your own vehicle there?

Scott R. (04:28:52):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:28:53):

And did Sophie go to that job site as well?

Scott R. (04:28:55):

Yes, she did.

Attorney Watson (04:28:56):

And did she drive her own vehicle there?

Scott R. (04:28:58):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:28:59):

And what time did Sophie arrive at the job site?

Scott R. (04:29:01):

She arrived right around 8:00, if not a little bit before.

Attorney Watson (04:29:04):

And what time did she work until at the job site in Simsbury that day?

Scott R. (04:29:08):

For that day, we were pretty much finished up around noon, and I told her she can leave then because I know she's a teenager, wanted to go do some stuff with friends, so I let her go at noon and my guys and I stayed behind just to finish up some stuff. Which was typical when my sons or my daughters work for me.

Attorney Watson (04:29:26):

Okay. And how long did you stay at the job site with you and your crew?

Scott R. (04:29:28):

We were probably another hour, an hour and a half before we left.

Attorney Watson (04:29:32):

When your daughter Sophie left the job site in Simsbury, where was she headed?

Scott R. (04:29:38):

I think she told me she was heading home, because she wanted to go straight from a job site, probably she was dirty or just to change.

Attorney Watson (04:29:46):

Okay. And did you eventually leave the job site in Simsbury?

Scott R. (04:29:48):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:29:49):

And what time did you get home, sir?

Scott R. (04:29:52):

It was after 2:00, between 2:00 and 3:00, probably more close. Yeah, it was closer to 2:00 I got a feeling or something. Yeah. It wasn't too late that day.

Attorney Watson (04:30:01):

And when you got home at that time, was Sophie's truck in the driveway of your house?

Scott R. (04:30:08):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:30:09):

Okay. Actually, was she anywhere in the house?

Scott R. (04:30:13):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:30:13):

When you got home?

Scott R. (04:30:14):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:30:15):

Do you know where she was?

Scott R. (04:30:17):

I asked my wife when I came in and I said, "Didn't Sophie come home from work?" And she's like, "Oh yeah, she was home and she went back out." And I said, "Oh, okay."

Attorney Watson (04:30:25):

Okay. And do you know where she went back out?

Scott R. (04:30:28):

My wife said she went to Tidy.

Martin Minella (04:30:30):

I'm going to have to object.

Attorney Watson (04:30:31):

Okay.

Judge Pelosi (04:30:31):

Hang on. There's an objection.

Martin Minella (04:30:33):

Hearsay.

Judge Pelosi (04:30:34):

Sustained.

Attorney Watson (04:30:36):

Later that evening around 6:20, were you still at your home?

Scott R. (04:30:40):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:30:40):

Okay. And what were you doing then, sir?

Scott R. (04:30:43):

Just watching TV.

Attorney Watson (04:30:45):

And at that time or near that time, did you hear anyone come home?

Scott R. (04:30:51):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:30:53):

All right. And who came home, sir?

Scott R. (04:30:54):

Sophie.

Attorney Watson (04:30:55):

And when she got home, did anyone else arrive in the driveway shortly after?

Scott R. (04:30:59):

Yeah, I saw Cooper's truck pull down the driveway. Where I watch TV, my monitors are there to my basement. I got a walk out basement and the monitor's there. Usually the reason for the camera is because we live out in the woods, and I just like to see when bears go through and another wildlife, so. But it's right to the driveway too, so.

Attorney Watson (04:31:18):

So you had a live video feed that you were -

Scott R. (04:31:20):

Live video feed while I'm watching TV. I mean, I don't stare at it, but while you're there you see a flash or something and I just looked and I said, "Okay, Sophie's back." And then I saw Cooper's truck behind her.

Attorney Watson (04:31:29):

And when Sophie got home, did she park her truck in the driveway?

Scott R. (04:31:32):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:31:32):

And after she did that, did she go inside the house?

Scott R. (04:31:35):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:31:35):

And do you know if she was supposed to be going out with Cooper Ouellette after that?

Scott R. (04:31:40):

I just assumed.

Attorney Watson (04:31:42):

Okay. And when she went inside the house, did you speak with her?

Scott R. (04:31:48):

Briefly. She said, "Hi." I mean, I didn't go up and talk to her, but no. She opened the door to the basement and yelled down and then went up. I said, "Hey."

Attorney Watson (04:31:58):

Okay.

Scott R. (04:31:58):

I mean, we were together that whole morning, so it wasn't like I didn't see her. We would talk for -

Scott R. (04:32:00):

So it wasn't like I didn't see her. We would talk for five, 10 minutes, but ...

Attorney Watson (04:32:07):

Okay. And did she eventually leave the house after that?

Scott R. (04:32:09):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:32:10):

Okay. And do you know who she left with?

Scott R. (04:32:16):

Cooper.

Attorney Watson (04:32:20):

Okay. Now, while Sophie was out that evening with Cooper Ouellette, before she came back home, who else was at your house?

Scott R. (04:32:27):

My wife still, myself, Jackson, and Laila.

Attorney Watson (04:32:31):

And were you still awake around 11:15 on 5/20 of 2023?

Scott R. (04:32:37):

A little ... I was awake just going to bed around 11:15.

Attorney Watson (04:32:42):

Okay. And is that 11:15 PM or AM, sir?

Scott R. (04:32:45):

PM.

Attorney Watson (04:32:45):

And were you in the house and you were still awake at that time? Where were you?

Scott R. (04:32:49):

Well, before I came up at 11:15, I came up around 11:00 like I typically do. And I opened the garage door and I looked at the camera and I opened the garage door and I didn't hear her come in 'cause she was driving obviously, and I didn't see anybody come down. So I asked my wife, I said, "Where's Sophie? She's not home yet. Did you hear ... Have you heard from her?" And she said, "Yes. She asked if she could have a little extended curfew. So I told her no later than 11:30." So that's when I was upstairs ... Upstairs is when we had that conversation.

Attorney Watson (04:33:20):

And was Sophie back at your home at 11:15 PM?

Scott R. (04:33:23):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:33:24):

And was your wife still up at that point at 11:15?

Scott R. (04:33:29):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:33:32):

Now, after you found out that Sophie was supposed to be home at 11:30, what did you do?

Scott R. (04:33:37):

I said, "I'm going to stay up and wait for her." And I said, "Okay, I'm going to go to bed." I was beat from the day.

Attorney Watson (04:33:43):

And did you go upstairs to your bedroom?

Scott R. (04:33:45):

Yes. This conversation happened in our bedroom.

Attorney Watson (04:33:48):

Okay. And what did Lynne do after you told her that?

Scott R. (04:33:51):

She said, "I'm going to go downstairs and wait for her on the couch."

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (04:33:54):

Objection, Your Honor.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:33:55):

Sorry.

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (04:33:56):

Tried to let it go.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:33:57):

I didn't hear you.

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (04:33:58):

Hearsay, Your Honor.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:34:00):

Can you rephrase that question?

Attorney Watson (04:34:01):

Sure. When you stayed upstairs in your bedroom around 11:15, did Lynne stay with you?

Scott R. (04:34:06):

No, she went downstairs.

Attorney Watson (04:34:12):

And while you were upstairs around that time, were you trying to fall asleep?

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (04:34:17):

Sorry, I'm going to object-

Attorney Watson (04:34:17):

Yes.

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (04:34:18):

... as leading the witness and it's not preliminary.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:34:20):

That's ... It's questionable. It's sustained.

Attorney Watson (04:34:24):

What were you doing when you were upstairs in your bedroom at 11:15?

Scott R. (04:34:27):

I was going to sleep.

Attorney Watson (04:34:30):

And did you fall asleep?

Scott R. (04:34:32):

Yes, I did.

Attorney Watson (04:34:33):

And while you were sleeping, were you awoken?

Scott R. (04:34:37):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:34:37):

How were you woken up?

Scott R. (04:34:39):

I was woken up by the loudest yell or scream. It was loudest ... I'd never heard a scream like that from my wife in all the years we've known each other and hard to wake up out of a sleep. So I jumped like I didn't know what was going on.

Attorney Watson (04:34:54):

And when you heard your wife scream, what did you do?

Scott R. (04:34:59):

I ran downstairs. I threw a shirt on 'cause I was in my underwear or boxers and I threw a shirt on and ran downstairs.

Attorney Watson (04:35:07):

And did you go outside to the driveway?

Scott R. (04:35:09):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:35:10):

And did anyone else go down the stairs towards the driveway with you?

Scott R. (04:35:13):

My son, Jackson.

Attorney Watson (04:35:15):

And when you went outside to the driveway, did you see Cooper Ouellette's truck parked there?

Scott R. (04:35:18):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:35:20):

And when you went outside and saw Cooper Ouellette's truck parked there, did you go to the passenger side of that truck or the driver's side?

Scott R. (04:35:26):

Passenger side.

Attorney Watson (04:35:28):

And when you got to the passenger side of the truck, was it open?

Scott R. (04:35:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:35:32):

And did you see your daughter Sophie?

Scott R. (04:35:35):

Yes. Cooper was there standing against his truck. My wife was there on the ground next to Sophie and I saw her laying on the ground.

Attorney Watson (04:35:42):

Okay. And was Sophie moving while she was on the ground?

Scott R. (04:35:46):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:35:46):

Was she talking?

Scott R. (04:35:48):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:35:49):

When you saw her like that, did you say anything to Cooper Ouellette?

Scott R. (04:35:54):

I said, "What happened?"

Attorney Watson (04:35:56):

And when you said what happened to Cooper Ouellette, did he respond?

Scott R. (04:35:59):

Yeah, he said she fell out of the truck.

Attorney Watson (04:36:03):

And at that point, did he tell you that any part of his truck struck Sophie?

Scott R. (04:36:07):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:36:08):

Now, what did you do with Sophie at that point?

Scott R. (04:36:10):

I grabbed her under the arms 'cause my wife couldn't get her ... I grabbed her under the arms and I'm a pretty big guy, so it was tough, but I got her under the arms and I got her into our garage and then to the doorway into our house.

Attorney Watson (04:36:22):

Okay. And did your wife help you pick Sophie up?

Scott R. (04:36:26):

She tried. I mean, she was there. I mean, yeah, she was trying to attempt to help me. She assisted, I would say. I mean, it was tough.

Attorney Watson (04:36:36):

Okay. And was Sophie moving when you were carrying her?

Scott R. (04:36:39):

No, it was dead weight.

Attorney Watson (04:36:44):

Now, while you were carrying Sophie with your wife, was Cooper Ouellette near you?

Scott R. (04:36:51):

He was in the area. I don't know where exactly.

Attorney Watson (04:36:53):

And did you say anything to Cooper Ouellette while you were trying to carry your daughter?

Scott R. (04:36:58):

While I was picking her up, after I said, "What happened?" I said, "You kids shouldn't be drinking."

Attorney Watson (04:37:04):

And did he answer you?

Scott R. (04:37:06):

Yeah, he said, "I wasn't drinking," or something to that effect. I didn't drink or something. I don't know, but it was basically saying I didn't drink.

Attorney Watson (04:37:15):

Okay. And when he said that to you, were you close to him?

Scott R. (04:37:17):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:37:18):

And when he told you that he wasn't drinking, did you say anything back to him?

Scott R. (04:37:23):

I basically said, "Bullshit." I could smell it ... I smelled the beer or smell of alcohol.

Attorney Watson (04:37:30):

Where did you smell the alcohol?

Scott R. (04:37:31):

On his breath.

Attorney Watson (04:37:35):

And when you told him that, what if, if anything, did you notice about Cooper Ouellette?

Scott R. (04:37:42):

I just got a blank stare with these big eyes and that was it.

Attorney Watson (04:37:47):

And did you eventually get Sophie into the garage?

Scott R. (04:37:50):

I got her into the garage.

Attorney Watson (04:37:52):

When you got her into the garage, was she able to talk?

Scott R. (04:37:55):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:37:55):

And was she making any sounds?

Scott R. (04:37:58):

I got her into the garage to the doorway. That's where we ended at the doorway, and she wasn't making any sounds or anything.

Attorney Watson (04:38:03):

Okay. And was Sophie able to move by herself at that point?

Scott R. (04:38:08):

No. When I got her to the doorway, I let go and then I slowly got her down and she was on her back. And then after I heard the gurgling and the wheezing noises, I turned her on her side just 'cause I had old CPR stuff ... Or I just thought for some reason, "I need to get her on her side." So I got her on her side and then while I was getting on her side, her shirt came up in the back and I saw bruising and cuts. And then I moved her hair across ... Sorry. I moved hair from her face and I saw blood and then I saw it looked like her teeth were broken or missing or something. And then I was confused. I was just like ... It made no sense to me.

Attorney Watson (04:39:08):

When you got Sophie into the garage, did anyone call 911?

Scott R. (04:39:12):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:39:14):

And after 911 was called, did an ambulance arrive?

Scott R. (04:39:17):

No. During the call, there was a lot going on. And during the call, I believe it was Lynne or Laila yelling that the ambulance couldn't be here for 20 minutes, 'cause we're in a rural area and who knows, but couldn't be here in 20 minutes."

Attorney Watson (04:39:34):

Now, based upon Sophie's condition, the way that you saw her, what did you decide to do at that point?

Scott R. (04:39:40):

Once I turned her to the side and saw that, I knew it was bad. So as soon as I heard 20 minutes, I said, "We got to go. We got to go." There was no ifs, ands, or buts. We weren't waiting anywhere.

Attorney Watson (04:39:49):

And where were you going to?

Scott R. (04:39:50):

Going to a hospital.

Attorney Watson (04:39:52):

And was Sophie put in the back of your car?

Scott R. (04:39:57):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:39:59):

And what time did you leave to bring Sophie to the hospital?

Scott R. (04:40:07):

It seemed like it happened so fast, but it was in slow motion. I mean, it wasn't ... Within getting home 15, 20 minutes, maybe.

Attorney Watson (04:40:14):

Okay.

Scott R. (04:40:15):

10. I don't know. It's hard to tell. I relive it over and over and over and timeframes as far as when she got home. I couldn't tell if it was 10 minutes, 12 minutes, but I know it wasn't a long time.

Attorney Watson (04:40:28):

Who brought Sophie to the hospital?

Scott R. (04:40:30):

Myself and Lynne.

Attorney Watson (04:40:31):

And who drove?

Scott R. (04:40:32):

I drove.

Attorney Watson (04:40:33):

And where did your wife sit in the car?

Scott R. (04:40:35):

She sat in the back. When we got her in, she got in first. I had her and Laila helped. Yeah, Laila helped, and I got her in, so her head was on my wife's lap in the back passenger seat.

Attorney Watson (04:40:49):

And on the way to the hospital, was Sophie making any sounds?

Scott R. (04:40:54):

Just a gurgling and wheezing and she just ... I heard like a, "Cooper," and then air. That's all I heard, but nothing ... Not ... You couldn't understand it, but it wasn't ... I can't know how to explain it. It was ...

Attorney Watson (04:41:15):

Was she able to tell you what happened to her?

Scott R. (04:41:17):

No.

Attorney Watson (04:41:19):

Was she able to say anything besides Cooper and air?

Scott R. (04:41:23):

Nope.

Attorney Watson (04:41:25):

And what hospital did you bring Sophie to?

Scott R. (04:41:27):

Bristol Hospital. Originally, my wife wanted to try to go to UConn, just she thinks it's a better hospital or whatever it was. And I said, "There's ..." From what I saw, I said, "There's no way. I'm going to the quickest hospital I can get to." And I knew Bristol was a straight shot down 69 for us, Route 69, and up over the hill instead of trying to get down Route 4 through Farmington. I don't know ... You're not familiar with there, but-

Attorney Watson (04:41:50):

Yeah.

Scott R. (04:41:51):

... it would've been ... I just wanted to get to the fastest place I could, that emergency room.

Attorney Watson (04:41:57):

When you got to Bristol Hospital, were you able to get Sophie into the ER?

Scott R. (04:42:03):

Yeah, we pulled up front. I got out of the car, I ran and grabbed the wheelchair 'cause it was midnight or it was late and obviously there wasn't a lot of activity. So I got a wheelchair and I came out and Lynne and I got her into the wheelchair. And then I said to Lynne, I go, "You get her right in." I don't want to block the emergency entrance there. So I moved my car and she went inside. I helped her get ... I got them into the lobby and then she started yelling for help, and that's when I ran to move my car so I didn't impede anything else, and then I came back in.

Attorney Watson (04:42:34):

And after you moved your car, did you go back in the hospital?

Scott R. (04:42:36):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:42:38):

And where were you in the hospital when you went back in?

Scott R. (04:42:40):

I was in the lobby, and at that point the lobby was empty. Lynne and Sophie were already behind the double doors that go into the emergency room.

Attorney Watson (04:42:50):

And were you eventually let into those double doors in that area?

Scott R. (04:42:54):

Eventually. The lady working the front counter or whatever they call it, she's like, "Oh, you wanted to get information from me." So I actually went over there and just to give her names and all that. Then she was asking about insurance and I said, "I don't have time for any of that. Don't worry." And then I went back to sit in the little waiting area and I was right outside the doors and I was hoping somebody would come let me in. And while I was sitting there, Lynne texted me, "It's bad. We need to pray."

Attorney Watson (04:43:23):

Did you go in the back where they were treating your daughter at that point?

Scott R. (04:43:27):

Yes. A couple of minutes after that text or three, four minutes, a nurse came out and grabbed me.

Attorney Watson (04:43:37):

Now, when you went back into the emergency room through those double doors, did you see your wife, Lynne?

Scott R. (04:43:44):

Yes. She was walking with an older nurse and just grabbing her hand and they said, you know, another nurse took me together with them.

Attorney Watson (04:43:56):

Did you eventually end up in another room in the hospital?

Scott R. (04:44:00):

Yes. We ended up in a side ... It was like a little computer room, it looked like to me. There was computers on it. I don't know if it was a work room or what it was.

Attorney Watson (04:44:06):

And who was in the room with you?

Scott R. (04:44:10):

The nurse. I don't remember any names of anybody, but an older nurse and then a doctor.

Attorney Watson (04:44:15):

Okay. And was your wife with you in that room?

Scott R. (04:44:18):

Oh, yes.

Attorney Watson (04:44:19):

And while you were with your wife in that room, did a member of the hospital staff come and speak with you?

Scott R. (04:44:25):

Yes. We walked in the room and the doctor was right with us within a few minutes. There was no waiting. It was a few minutes.

Attorney Watson (04:44:33):

Okay. And at that point, did you learn what happened to your daughter?

Scott R. (04:44:38):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:44:42):

Did members of the state police then come talk to both ... Or actually, when you learned what happened to your daughter, what did you do?

Scott R. (04:44:52):

What I did is I ... I don't know. It was like the whole world ended. I don't know. I just dropped to the floor. I think I dropped onto the desk and I was on my knees. I think the doctor in the room, he thought I was going to break the place and throw everything around, but I was just limp. I just ...

Attorney Watson (04:45:15):

And when you did that, did Lynne leave the room?

Scott R. (04:45:18):

Lynne right away said, "I need to see her." And I was just in so much shock. I went to see her, but no, I just lost ... I had to hang out there for a minute or whatever I did.

Attorney Watson (04:45:31):

And did members of the state police then come and speak to both you and Lynne while you were at the hospital?

Scott R. (04:45:36):

Eventually. Originally, the Bristol Police showed up. They pulled the curtain a little bit and came in. And then once they found out where we lived, they said they were going to call the state police.

Attorney Watson (04:45:48):

And did the state police show up?

Scott R. (04:45:50):

Yes, they showed up.

Attorney Watson (04:45:51):

And did you speak with some detectives from the state police while Lynne was present?

Scott R. (04:45:55):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:45:56):

And when you and Lynne spoke to the state police, did you give them all the information that you had at that point?

Scott R. (04:46:02):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (04:46:03):

Can I have one moment?

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:46:05):

Take your time.

Attorney Watson (04:46:08):

I have nothing further. Thank you.

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (04:46:12):

I have no cross-examination, Your Honor.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:46:13):

Thank you, Mr. R. I appreciate it. Please don't discuss your testimony with anybody else. Okay?

Scott R. (04:46:17):

Yeah. Thank you, Judge.

Attorney Watson (04:46:17):

[inaudible 04:46:18].

Attorney David Clifton (04:46:17):

Just need a moment for the next witness [inaudible 04:46:36].

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:46:36):

Take your time.

Attorney David Clifton (04:46:39):

Next will be Jackson R. What's his revision name?

Attorney Watson (04:46:40):

Jackson.

Attorney David Clifton (04:46:40):

No, the other guy.

Attorney Watson (04:46:40):

Scott.

Attorney David Clifton (04:46:40):

Scott?

Attorney Watson (04:46:40):

Right.

Speaker 10 (04:46:40):

Sorry. [inaudible 04:47:28].

Speaker 11 (04:46:40):

Just stand right there.

Jackson R. (04:46:40):

All right.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:49:10):

Thank you, Jackson R. You're just going to raise your right hand and get sworn in, okay?

Jackson R. (04:49:11):

Okay.

Speaker 9 (04:49:12):

Do you solemnly swear, or solemnly and sincerely affirm as the case may be, that the evidence you shall give concerning the case now in question shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God upon penalty of perjury?

Jackson R. (04:49:21):

I do.

Speaker 9 (04:49:21):

And please state your first name and only the initial of your last name.

Jackson R. (04:49:24):

Jackson R.

Speaker 9 (04:49:25):

And your town or residence?

Jackson R. (04:49:27):

Burlington, Connecticut.

Speaker 9 (04:49:28):

Thank you.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:49:29):

Thank you, Jackson. Have a seat. It's a big courtroom, so I'm just asking you to keep up your voice, okay?

Jackson R. (04:49:33):

Okay.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:49:33):

Thank you.

Jackson R. (04:49:34):

Yep.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:49:34):

Attorney Clifton.

Attorney David Clifton (04:49:35):

Thank you, Your Honor. Good afternoon.

Jackson R. (04:49:37):

Good afternoon.

Attorney David Clifton (04:49:39):

Did you complete your high school degree?

Jackson R. (04:49:41):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:49:42):

When was that?

Jackson R. (04:49:43):

2019.

Attorney David Clifton (04:49:45):

What school did you graduate from?

Jackson R. (04:49:46):

Northwest Catholic High School in West Hartford.

Attorney David Clifton (04:49:49):

And did you have any schooling after that?

Jackson R. (04:49:51):

Some college.

Attorney David Clifton (04:49:52):

Where'd you go to college?

Jackson R. (04:49:54):

Iona College.

Attorney David Clifton (04:49:55):

And when was that?

Jackson R. (04:49:57):

After I graduated in 2019, so 2019 to COVID.

Attorney David Clifton (04:50:04):

And after you stopped college, did you start working?

Jackson R. (04:50:06):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:50:07):

And what were you doing for a living?

Jackson R. (04:50:09):

Construction work.

Attorney David Clifton (04:50:11):

And are you currently working?

Jackson R. (04:50:13):

I'm currently out on workers' comp.

Attorney David Clifton (04:50:16):

And do you live in Connecticut currently?

(04:50:17)
Give me a second. [inaudible 04:50:38].

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:50:17):

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 12 (04:50:17):

You want me to turn the TV on?

Attorney David Clifton (04:50:44):

Is State's Exhibit 1 displayed in front of you?

Jackson R. (04:50:45):

No, still a black screen.

Attorney David Clifton (04:50:56):

I'm going to approach you with a physical copy-

Jackson R. (04:50:57):

Okay.

Attorney David Clifton (04:50:57):

... of State's Exhibit 1. Just take a look at this document.

Jackson R. (04:50:57):

All right.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:03):

Okay. Do you recognize the person whose name is depicted in that document?

Jackson R. (04:51:05):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:07):

Who do you recognize that person to be?

Jackson R. (04:51:08):

My younger sister.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:10):

And for the rest of your testimony, I'm going to refer to her as Sophie, okay?

Jackson R. (04:51:14):

Okay.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:18):

You said that was your sister.

Jackson R. (04:51:18):

Mm-hmm.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:19):

Is she older, younger?

Jackson R. (04:51:21):

Younger.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:21):

About how much younger?

Jackson R. (04:51:24):

Five years or six years. I don't know the math. I'm 26. She was 17.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:33):

Okay. And in May of 2023, how old were you?

Jackson R. (04:51:35):

I was 22.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:38):

And do you share any other siblings with Sophie?

Jackson R. (04:51:40):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:41):

Who's that?

Jackson R. (04:51:41):

My brother, Tyler.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:43):

And did you, Tyler, and Sophie grow up in that same house in Burlington?

Jackson R. (04:51:47):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:49):

And in May of 2023, how old was Sophie?

Jackson R. (04:51:52):

17.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:55):

And was she in high school?

Jackson R. (04:51:56):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:51:56):

‍

What year was she in?

Jackson R. (04:51:57):

Junior.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:03):

Are you familiar with the person named Cooper Ouellette?

Jackson R. (04:52:06):

I am.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:07):

How are you familiar with him?

Jackson R. (04:52:09):

He was my sister's boyfriend.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:11):

About how long were they dating?

Jackson R. (04:52:13):

More than a year. Less than three years.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:16):

And in that time, did you have time to interact with Cooper Ouellette when he was dating your sister?

Jackson R. (04:52:20):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:21):

About how many times would you say?

Jackson R. (04:52:26):

More than I could count.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:28):

Would he regularly come to your house to pick up Sophie?

Jackson R. (04:52:30):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:33):

And during those times, you'd speak with him cordially?

Jackson R. (04:52:36):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:36):

And do you see the person you know as Cooper Ouellette in the courtroom today?

Jackson R. (04:52:42):

I do.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:43):

And would you please point him out and describe an article of clothing he's wearing?

Jackson R. (04:52:45):

In the blue vest standing.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:52:49):

All right. The record will reflect the in-court identification.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:51):

Thank you.

Judge Chris Pelosi (04:52:52):

You can have a seat, sir.

Attorney David Clifton (04:52:55):

Now I'm going to direct your attention to May 20th of 2023, okay? During May 20th, 2023, were you at your house on Fieldview Drive all day?

Jackson R. (04:53:04):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:53:05):

And was anyone with you that day?

Jackson R. (04:53:07):

My girlfriend, now-fiancee, Laila.

Attorney David Clifton (04:53:10):

And why were you staying at your house on May 20th, 2023 all day?

Jackson R. (04:53:15):

I had a broken right ankle.

Attorney David Clifton (04:53:17):

How'd you break your ankle?

Jackson R. (04:53:19):

I was jumping down a couple steps of the stairs at home.

Attorney David Clifton (04:53:25):

At that time, did you have any kind of cast or boot or anything on you?

Jackson R. (04:53:30):

I had some sort of splint. I had surgery that coming Monday.

Attorney David Clifton (04:53:37):

So it was after May 20th of 2023 was surgery scheduled for your ankle?

Jackson R. (04:53:41):

Mm-hmm.

Attorney David Clifton (04:53:44):

And do you recall if that was May 20th, 2023, do you recall what day of the week that was?

Jackson R. (04:53:50):

Saturday.

Attorney David Clifton (04:53:51):

And was Laila staying with you that weekend?

Jackson R. (04:53:55):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:53:57):

And you mentioned she's your now-fiancee. When did that engagement occur?

Jackson R. (04:54:02):

April 8th of this year.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:04):

Good memory. Do you know if Sophie was supposed to go out that evening?

Jackson R. (04:54:10):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:12):

And where was she going?

Jackson R. (04:54:14):

To a friend's house.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:16):

And before she went out, did she come to speak with you?

Jackson R. (04:54:19):

Yeah.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:20):

And what do you recall Sophie telling you?

Jackson R. (04:54:22):

She stopped in briefly, smiling, said she was going out.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:27):

And was that normal for her to do?

Jackson R. (04:54:28):

Yeah.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:31):

And I want to fast-forward to about 11:50 that evening. Were you still at your house in Burlington?

Jackson R. (04:54:37):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:38):

And did there come a time where Sophie came home that evening?

Jackson R. (04:54:41):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:43):

And who was with you when Sophie came home?

Jackson R. (04:54:47):

My girlfriend, Laila, in bed with me.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:50):

And what were you two doing around 11:50 on May 20th, 2023?

Jackson R. (04:54:55):

Watching TV or playing video games.

Attorney David Clifton (04:54:58):

Were you awake?

Jackson R. (04:54:59):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:55:01):

And did you hear anything out of the ordinary around 11:50 of May 20th, 2023?

Jackson R. (04:55:06):

Yes. I heard my mom scream, a scream I'd never heard before.

Attorney David Clifton (04:55:12):

And when you heard that scream, what, if anything, did you do?

Jackson R. (04:55:17):

I hopped down the stairs and outside. Yeah.

Attorney David Clifton (04:55:23):

When you got outside, what did you see?

Jackson R. (04:55:25):

I saw Sophie laying on her back outside of the passenger door of the truck.

Attorney David Clifton (04:55:33):

And what did you do when you saw your sister on the ground next to the truck?

Jackson R. (04:55:37):

Started freaking out.

Attorney David Clifton (04:55:41):

Did you see the defendant, Cooper Ouellette, outside the truck?

Jackson R. (04:55:44):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:55:45):

Where was he?

Jackson R. (04:55:47):

Standing around the truck.

Attorney David Clifton (04:55:50):

And did you go to speak with Cooper or did you go to see your sister?

Jackson R. (04:55:55):

To see my sister.

Attorney David Clifton (04:55:56):

And when you saw your sister, what did you observe?

Jackson R. (04:56:00):

I just saw her moaning, kind of just laying on the ground. Yeah.

Attorney David Clifton (04:56:07):

When you first saw her, was she able to talk?

Jackson R. (04:56:09):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (04:56:11):

Could you hear anything from her that night?

Jackson R. (04:56:15):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (04:56:17):

Was Sophie able to move by herself?

Jackson R. (04:56:19):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (04:56:23):

Did your mother or father do anything relative to Sophie?

Jackson R. (04:56:27):

Yeah, they helped her into the garage or carried her into the garage.

Attorney David Clifton (04:56:32):

Did you see them carrying her?

Jackson R. (04:56:35):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:56:36):

And when they got her into the garage, what, if anything, did you do?

Jackson R. (04:56:40):

I sat with her at the steps from the garage to the main door to the house. I sat with her.

Attorney David Clifton (04:56:50):

And as you were sitting with her, did you observe any injuries to Sophie?

Jackson R. (04:56:55):

Yeah, there was blood coming out of her mouth and her face had some scratches on it.

Attorney David Clifton (04:57:03):

And at that time, what were you thinking?

Jackson R. (04:57:07):

That something was seriously wrong, to have blood coming out of your mouth.

Attorney David Clifton (04:57:11):

Did anyone call 911 at that point?

Jackson R. (04:57:14):

Yes. My girlfriend Laila called, if I remember correctly.

Attorney David Clifton (04:57:18):

And did an ambulance arrive at your home?

Jackson R. (04:57:23):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (04:57:24):

What happened next?

Jackson R. (04:57:26):

The ambulance said it was going to take too long for us to wait, so they got Sophie in the back seat of my dad's SUV.

Attorney David Clifton (04:57:40):

And what did they do?

Jackson R. (04:57:43):

Took her to the hospital.

Attorney David Clifton (04:57:46):

Did you go to the hospital with them?

Jackson R. (04:57:47):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (04:57:48):

What did you do?

Jackson R. (04:57:49):

Sat on the couch and waited until I heard something.

Attorney David Clifton (04:57:53):

And after Lynne and [inaudible 04:57:56] had taken your sister out of the house, did anybody come back to your house?

Jackson R. (04:58:01):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:58:02):

Who was that?

Jackson R. (04:58:03):

Cooper.

Attorney David Clifton (04:58:04):

And when Cooper Ouellette came back to your house, did you speak with him?

Jackson R. (04:58:08):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:58:09):

Where was this conversation occurring?

Jackson R. (04:58:13):

In the main area of the house, just in front of the front door.

Attorney David Clifton (04:58:19):

And do you recall about how long that conversation was?

Jackson R. (04:58:24):

No, it was brief.

Attorney David Clifton (04:58:27):

And when he gets there, what's the first thing you say to him?

Jackson R. (04:58:32):

"What happened?"

Attorney David Clifton (04:58:34):

Did Cooper respond to you?

Jackson R. (04:58:35):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:58:36):

And what did he say?

Jackson R. (04:58:38):

He had two versions of what happened.

Attorney David Clifton (04:58:43):

Let's start with the first one. What's the first thing he told you?

Jackson R. (04:58:45):

The first one was that on the street that connects to ours, Polydan, he was coming down at where the street dips down, and there's two pull-offs on either side, and he said that he got down there and pulled off to the left side, and while he was slowing down, she fell out of the vehicle.

Attorney David Clifton (04:59:07):

And if you could bring up State's Exhibit 2. This is [inaudible 04:59:12].

Speaker 12 (04:59:11):

Didn't go on. I got it.

Attorney David Clifton (04:59:26):

Showing you State's Exhibit 2, does this depict the area of Fieldview at Polydan and your home that we're referring to?

Jackson R. (04:59:34):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (04:59:36):

And if I can approach you with the mouse, it's up there.

Jackson R. (04:59:41):

Mm-hmm.

Attorney David Clifton (04:59:42):

There is a mouse in front of you. Could you use that cursor and show where you know the dip in Polydan to be?

Jackson R. (04:59:48):

Okay, thanks. Yep. Yeah, it's right here.

Attorney David Clifton (04:59:58):

May the record reflect there is a dip in the road, it is halfway between Fieldview and Polydan approximately?

Judge Chris Pelosi (05:00:04):

Record so will reflect.

Attorney David Clifton (05:00:07):

And is that the area that Cooper Ouellette directed you to as to where this happened?

Jackson R. (05:00:12):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:00:14):

And you said he pulled over to which side of the road?

Jackson R. (05:00:17):

The left side.

Attorney David Clifton (05:00:20):

Are you familiar with that area of Polydan Road?

Jackson R. (05:00:22):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:00:23):

Are there homes there? What does it look like?

Jackson R. (05:00:27):

That part of the road, there's a gap in the houses. It's water and just two kind of dirt turnarounds on either side.

Attorney David Clifton (05:00:36):

So is there a dirt pull off to the left and a dirt pull off to the right?

Jackson R. (05:00:40):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:00:42):

And he first mentioned going to the left?

Jackson R. (05:00:43):

Yeah, where the driver's side would be towards the trees, towards the bushes, off away from the road.

Attorney David Clifton (05:00:52):

Did that strike you as odd?

Jackson R. (05:00:54):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:00:55):

Why?

Jackson R. (05:00:56):

Because usually when you have a passenger, you pull over to the right side so that the passenger isn't in the road when they get out.

Attorney David Clifton (05:01:05):

At that point, did you confront Cooper with that contradiction?

Jackson R. (05:01:09):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (05:01:10):

Were you just listening?

Jackson R. (05:01:11):

Yeah.

Attorney David Clifton (05:01:12):

And did he then, at some point in this conversation, change where he stopped?

Jackson R. (05:01:17):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:01:17):

How did that happen?

Jackson R. (05:01:19):

Just going over it. He said that on the second version that they got up towards Fieldview Drive, onto Fieldview Drive, and that's when she fell out.

Attorney David Clifton (05:01:32):

Did he direct you to any area specifically of Fieldview Drive or just Fieldview Drive?

Jackson R. (05:01:36):

No, just Fieldview Drive.

Attorney David Clifton (05:01:37):

And the dip is on Polydan, not Fieldview Drive?

Jackson R. (05:01:39):

Correct.

Attorney David Clifton (05:01:46):

And I'm sorry, you said during the first iteration of the story, when he said he pulled over, what did he say happened to Sophie?

Jackson R. (05:01:53):

He said that she fell out and that ... Yeah, she fell out.

Attorney David Clifton (05:01:59):

And did he mention Whether his vehicle was moving or not?

Jackson R. (05:02:02):

Yes. The first version he said he was almost stopped.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:05):

Okay. And you say the first version you said it was almost stopped. Did that change?

Jackson R. (05:02:10):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:10):

How did it change?

Jackson R. (05:02:11):

In the second version, the Fieldview Drive one, he said that he wasn't slow ... That was just moving at a normal pace and she fell out while the car was moving at a normal pace.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:24):

So during the first version, he had saying he was stopping?

Jackson R. (05:02:30):

Yeah, that he was slowing down-

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:31):

[inaudible 05:02:32] when she fell-

Jackson R. (05:02:32):

... and almost at a stop. Yep.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:34):

And the second one, he was not braking at all?

Jackson R. (05:02:36):

Correct.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:42):

Did Cooper tell you if he had anything to drink that night?

Jackson R. (05:02:45):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:45):

How did that come up?

Jackson R. (05:02:47):

He said that he had had a drink at, I think it was one beer at six o'clock earlier that night.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:54):

Did you ask him if he had anything to drink?

Jackson R. (05:02:56):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:57):

At this point, were you still just listening to what he was saying?

Jackson R. (05:02:59):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:02:59):

Were you in any way confronting him with any contradictions?

Jackson R. (05:03:02):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:05):

And so after he brings up that he had one drink at six o'clock, does he repeat that statement at all?

Jackson R. (05:03:12):

I don't recall.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:19):

And after speaking with him that brief conversation you discussed, did Cooper leave your house?

Jackson R. (05:03:24):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:25):

Did you say goodbye to him?

Jackson R. (05:03:26):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:26):

How did you do that?

Jackson R. (05:03:28):

I gave him a hug and leaned in.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:31):

And when you leaned in, did you notice anything?

Jackson R. (05:03:33):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:34):

What did you notice?

Jackson R. (05:03:35):

The smell of alcohol-

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:38):

And-

Jackson R. (05:03:38):

Of beer.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:40):

... how would you describe that smell of alcohol and beer?

Jackson R. (05:03:43):

Strong. Stronger than one drink.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:48):

Have you spoken with Cooper Ouellette since that day?

Jackson R. (05:03:50):

I have not.

Attorney David Clifton (05:03:55):

During the investigation, did you sit down with members of the Connecticut State Police to provide a formal written statement?

Jackson R. (05:04:00):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:01):

And do you recall when that was?

Jackson R. (05:04:02):

I do not.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:11):

May approach I counsel?

Judge Chris Pelosi (05:04:11):

You may.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:11):

[inaudible 05:04:17].

Judge Chris Pelosi (05:04:17):

Is this to refresh recollection?

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:18):

Yes, Your Honor. Just take a look at this. See if there's anything in there that helps you refresh your recollection as to when that statement occurred.

Jackson R. (05:04:31):

Okay. Yep.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:32):

Okay. Turn it over for me. Having reviewed that, does that help refresh your recollection as to when you gave that statement?

Jackson R. (05:04:38):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:38):

Do you recall when that was?

Jackson R. (05:04:40):

June of 2023.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:42):

And you had mentioned that you were about to have surgery on your ankle?

Jackson R. (05:04:47):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:48):

Was that part of the reason for the delay in giving the statement?

Jackson R. (05:04:50):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:52):

And were you on any kind of pain medications following your surgery?

Jackson R. (05:04:56):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:04:58):

When you were giving the statement to the police, did you tell them all the information that you had available at the time?

Jackson R. (05:05:04):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:05:04):

And were you being open and honest with them throughout?

Jackson R. (05:05:06):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:05:07):

Were you in any way ... Oh, withdrawn. Were you given an opportunity to review that statement prior to it being submitted?

Jackson R. (05:05:18):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:05:18):

And did you check it for accuracy?

Jackson R. (05:05:20):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:05:21):

When you reviewed it for accuracy, did you notice anything missing?

Jackson R. (05:05:25):

No. No.

Attorney David Clifton (05:05:27):

And were you given an opportunity to sign and swear to that statement?

Jackson R. (05:05:29):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (05:05:29):

I have nothing further, Judge.

Judge Chris Pelosi (05:05:29):

Anything, Attorney Minnella?

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (05:05:29):

Yes, Your Honor.

(05:05:40)
You're done?

Attorney Watson (05:05:41):

Yes.

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (05:05:41):

Okay.

(05:05:41)
Good afternoon.

Jackson R. (05:05:41):

Good afternoon.

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (05:05:47):

Just a few questions. You gave that statement on June 14th, 2023, is that correct?

Jackson R. (05:06:02):

That's correct.

Attorney Martin J. Minnella (05:06:02):

And you were not the only one who gave a statement on that day were you [inaudible 05:06:03]. There were multiple-

Martin Minella (05:06:00):

There were multiple police there on that day, is that correct?

Jackson Ringquist (05:06:04):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:06:04):

And your mother gave a statement on that day?

Jackson Ringquist (05:06:11):

I'm not sure.

Martin Minella (05:06:12):

Did your father give a statement on that day?

Jackson Ringquist (05:06:15):

I'm not sure.

Martin Minella (05:06:16):

How many police officers were there when you gave that statement?

Jackson Ringquist (05:06:18):

More than two.

Martin Minella (05:06:21):

More than two?

Jackson Ringquist (05:06:23):

Mm-hmm.

Martin Minella (05:06:24):

Three?

Jackson Ringquist (05:06:25):

Couldn't tell you.

Martin Minella (05:06:26):

And you don't know if you were separated in different rooms, your mother, your father and you, with different police officers giving that to you?

Jackson Ringquist (05:06:38):

Can you repeat the question?

Martin Minella (05:06:41):

Yes. There were multiple police officers there. At some point, your mother was there, your father was there, and you were there?

Jackson Ringquist (05:06:47):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:06:51):

June 14th. And at some point in time, the three of you were separated, and three police officers asked for a statement from each one of you. Is that correct?

Attorney Watson (05:06:59):

Objection.

Martin Minella (05:06:59):

I'm not sure.

Attorney Watson (05:07:01):

Lack of personal knowledge.

Martin Minella (05:07:03):

If you have personal knowledge, yes.

Judge Pelosi (05:07:04):

That's overruled.

Martin Minella (05:07:05):

He can't know what's happening in another room.

Jackson Ringquist (05:07:07):

I mean, yeah.

Judge Pelosi (05:07:08):

The question is, are you asking him where he was interviewed, and was there anybody with him when he was being interviewed? You can answer that.

Jackson Ringquist (05:07:16):

No, I spoke to a police officer.

Martin Minella (05:07:20):

And you said there were two versions of the vehicle.

Jackson Ringquist (05:07:22):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:07:26):

So there were two times when your sister exited that vehicle, correct? His truck?

Jackson Ringquist (05:07:36):

What? According to his version, you mean?

Martin Minella (05:07:38):

According to your version, he gave you two different versions, correct?

Jackson Ringquist (05:07:44):

Correct.

Martin Minella (05:07:45):

And this is 6/14/23, correct? When you gave that statement?

Jackson Ringquist (05:07:53):

When I gave the statement, yes.

Martin Minella (05:07:54):

It is not [inaudible 05:07:56] date is that?

Jackson Ringquist (05:07:54):

Huh?

Martin Minella (05:07:54):

Do you know what date today is?

Jackson Ringquist (05:07:54):

Yeah, the 29th.

Martin Minella (05:08:06):

And as of the 29th, 26th, so today is what? October 29th, correct?

Jackson Ringquist (05:08:10):

Correct.

Martin Minella (05:08:11):

2026. Do you know there are two ... Let me retry. Do you know that your sister left that vehicle at two different times? Do you have personal knowledge?

Jackson Ringquist (05:08:24):

No.

Martin Minella (05:08:25):

Yet?

Jackson Ringquist (05:08:28):

What? I'm confused about what you're asking.

Martin Minella (05:08:29):

You know today's date is 29th of October, 2026.

Jackson Ringquist (05:08:29):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:08:38):

So as far as today's date, you know that your sister, your own personal knowledge, left Cooper's vehicle at two different times. Do you know that?

Jackson Ringquist (05:08:47):

Do I know that she ... I wasn't there.

Martin Minella (05:08:47):

No, I understand you weren't there. But you have personal knowledge today that your sister left his truck on two different times that night. If you do, you know. If you don't know, you don't know.

Jackson Ringquist (05:09:10):

I mean, I guess I don't know because I wasn't there. I'm kind of confused.

Martin Minella (05:09:13):

If you have personal knowledge of the fact that your sister exited that vehicle at two separate times that evening.

Attorney Watson (05:09:21):

Objection. This has been asked and answered.

Speaker X (05:09:23):

He doesn't know.

Martin Minella (05:09:24):

You don't know?

Jackson Ringquist (05:09:26):

Yeah.

Martin Minella (05:09:26):

Nothing further.

Judge Pelosi (05:09:29):

That's sustained.

(05:09:30)
All right. Thank you, sir. You can step down. Just get you out here. Just don't discuss your testimony with anybody, okay?

Jackson Ringquist (05:09:36):

Thank you, Your Honor.

Judge Pelosi (05:09:38):

You're welcome.

Attorney Watson (05:09:44):

Your Honor, at this point, by agreement of my understanding, I'm going to ask for permission to have Lynn, Scott, and/or Jackson come back into the courtroom.

Judge Pelosi (05:09:54):

Defense?

Martin Minella (05:09:56):

No objection, Your Honor.

Judge Pelosi (05:09:59):

Okay. That's granted.

Attorney Watson (05:10:01):

Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (05:10:02):

You may.

Attorney Watson (05:10:04):

The State will be calling Detective Matthew Harrington. And while Detective Harrington comes, may I approach the clerk?

Judge Pelosi (05:10:10):

You may.

(05:10:10)
Can Counsel approach? I'm sorry, Detective, in your way. You can raise your right hand.

Clerk (05:10:49):

Do you solemnly swear or solemnly affirm, whichever the case may be, that the evidence you shall give concerning the case now in question shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God upon penalty of perjury?

Attorney Watson (05:10:57):

Your Honor, before the witness is sworn in, I believe we have the wrong witness on the stand right now.

Judge Pelosi (05:11:04):

Oh. Okay.

Attorney Watson (05:11:07):

There was some confusion as to the person we were retrieving.

Judge Pelosi (05:11:08):

You are ...

Detective Bastos (05:11:08):

Detective Bastos.

Judge Pelosi (05:11:13):

Thank you. Okay, Detective Bastos.

Speaker X (05:11:14):

[inaudible 05:11:16]

Judge Pelosi (05:11:23):

Do you need a moment, or?-

Attorney Watson (05:11:24):

Yes, we're going to retrieve her evidence right now.

Judge Pelosi (05:11:24):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (05:11:24):

Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (05:11:24):

You're welcome.

Speaker X (05:11:24):

[inaudible 05:11:40]

Judge Pelosi (05:13:02):

All right, Detective. Good afternoon, sir. You're just going to raise your right hand, face the clerk.

Clerk (05:13:10):

Do you solemnly swear or affirm [inaudible 05:13:10] what you say or affirm, whichever the case may be, the evidence you shall give concerning the case now in question shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God upon penalty of perjury?

Detective Harrington (05:13:12):

I do.

Clerk (05:13:16):

And please state your full name, spelling your last name.

Detective Harrington (05:13:18):

Matthew Harrington. H-A-R-S [inaudible 05:13:22]

Clerk (05:13:22):

Please also state for the record your place of business and business address.

Detective Harrington (05:13:25):

1111 Company Club Road, Milltown, Connecticut.

Clerk (05:13:28):

Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (05:13:29):

Thank you. Have a seat, Detective. State?

Attorney Watson (05:13:34):

Yes. Can I have one more please?

Judge Pelosi (05:13:39):

You may. Detective, I'm just going to ask you to keep up your voice. It's a pretty big courtroom, okay?

Detective Harrington (05:13:40):

Yes, Your Honor.

Martin Minella (05:13:46):

Your Honor, for the record, we have no objection to this clothing going in as a exhibit.

Judge Pelosi (05:13:52):

Thank you, Attorney Minnella.

Attorney Watson (05:14:00):

Okay. What I indicate, Your Honor, is we had a few items marked as ID exhibits, and by agreement they are going to be indicated as full exhibits. And I will tell the Court that they are Exhibits 12, 13, 14, and 15.

Judge Pelosi (05:14:23):

All right. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, just sometimes you'll hear full exhibit or it's offered for an ID. If it's a full exhibit, you're going to have it during your deliberations. If it's just marked for identification, you will not have it. Okay? Thanks.

Attorney Watson (05:14:37):

May I approach the witness?

Judge Pelosi (05:14:38):

You may.

Attorney Watson (05:14:41):

Detective, at any point during your examination, if you need to don gloves in order to touch items that are in evidence, please do so.

Detective Harrington (05:14:48):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:14:53):

When did you become a Connecticut State Trooper?

Detective Harrington (05:14:56):

July 2019.

Attorney Watson (05:14:58):

And what type of training did you receive in order to be certified as a Connecticut State Trooper?

Detective Harrington (05:15:02):

Went to the Connecticut State Police Academy, graduated the academy.

Attorney Watson (05:15:06):

And how long have you been a trooper for?

Detective Harrington (05:15:09):

Since 2019.

Attorney Watson (05:15:10):

Okay. And when you began your career as a Connecticut State Trooper, what was your first assignment?

Detective Harrington (05:15:15):

I was assigned to patrol at Troop B in North Canaan.

Attorney Watson (05:15:18):

And what are the duties of that assignment?

Detective Harrington (05:15:20):

To patrol the area of Troop B. There's four patrols.

Attorney Watson (05:15:27):

Do you answer calls for service?

Detective Harrington (05:15:28):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:15:29):

Were you investigating crimes?

Detective Harrington (05:15:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:15:33):

How long were you assigned to that position, sir?

Detective Harrington (05:15:35):

Approximately two years.

Attorney Watson (05:15:37):

And what assignment did you take after that?

Detective Harrington (05:15:39):

I was assigned to Western District Major Crime, Auto Troop B.

Attorney Watson (05:15:42):

And what does Western District Major Crime do?

Detective Harrington (05:15:45):

Investigates crimes that are above the level of a patrol officer.

Attorney Watson (05:15:51):

And did you obtain the rank of detective at that time?

Detective Harrington (05:15:53):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:15:54):

And how did you obtain the rank of detective?

Detective Harrington (05:15:57):

There was an interview process, so I put in a packet to become a detective with Major Crime and went through interview process and was chosen.

Attorney Watson (05:16:07):

And do you currently work for Western District Major Crime now?

Detective Harrington (05:16:11):

I'm currently assigned as a task force officer with the FBI, so under Violent Crimes Against Children Task Force.

Attorney Watson (05:16:18):

Okay. How long were you a member of Western District Major Crime?

Detective Harrington (05:16:24):

From 2022 to 2025.

Attorney Watson (05:16:27):

Now, where is Western District Major Crime housed out of?

Detective Harrington (05:16:33):

Out of Troop L in Litchfield, Connecticut.

Attorney Watson (05:16:37):

And as part of your assignments at Western District Major Crime, have you had the occasion to investigate crimes involving death of someone?

Detective Harrington (05:16:44):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:16:45):

And how many times have you had occasion to do that, sir?

Detective Harrington (05:16:48):

Multiple times. I don't know how many times. Multiple times.

Attorney Watson (05:16:51):

With respect to your assignment with Western District Major Crime on May 21st of 2023, were you still with them?

Detective Harrington (05:16:58):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:16:59):

And on that date of May 21st of '23, was Western District Major Crime called to assist involving an investigation of the death of a female?

Detective Harrington (05:17:09):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:17:11):

I'm going to show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit One. It should pop up on the screen in front of you and this one right over here over my left shoulder. Are you familiar with that name that's indicated there?

Detective Harrington (05:17:26):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:17:27):

And is that the person that the Western District Major Crime was investigating your depo?

Detective Harrington (05:17:30):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:17:33):

And for the remainder of your testimony, if you have to refer to that person, I just ask that you refer to her as "Sophie," okay?

Detective Harrington (05:17:38):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:17:41):

Now on 5/21 of '23, where were you first dispatched to begin that investigation?

Detective Harrington (05:17:47):

Bristol Hospital.

Attorney Watson (05:17:48):

And what other members of Western District Major Crime went with you to the Bristol Hospital?

Detective Harrington (05:17:52):

‍

It was Detective Ryan Slaby and Detective Tyler Bastos.

Attorney Watson (05:17:56):

And when your unit arrived at the Bristol Hospital, did members of your unit speak with the mother and father of Sophie?

Detective Harrington (05:18:02):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:18:04):

And who from your unit spoke with the mother and father of Sophie?

Detective Harrington (05:18:07):

It was Detective Slaby and Detective Bastos.

Attorney Watson (05:18:11):

As a result of those conversations that they had, did your investigative team learn information that would be helpful in this investigation?

Detective Harrington (05:18:18):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:18:20):

Now, as part of this investigation into this case, was the clothing that Sophie was wearing that evening when she was brought to the Bristol Hospital seized?

Detective Harrington (05:18:28):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:18:28):

And were you responsible for seizing that clothing?

Detective Harrington (05:18:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:18:32):

Now, prior to securing the clothing that she was wearing, was a photograph taken?

Detective Harrington (05:18:37):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:18:38):

I'll show you what has been marked as State's Exhibit 12, and it is a full exhibit. I just ask you to look at it.

(05:18:46)
Is that a fair and accurate photograph of the clothing that Sophie was wearing that night when she was brought to the hospital?

Detective Harrington (05:18:54):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:18:54):

May we publish that please, Your Honor?

Judge Pelosi (05:18:58):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:19:03):

And what clothing is depicted there, sir?

Detective Harrington (05:19:06):

There's a gray sweatshirt, a pair of jeans, red underwear, and one cowboy boot.

Attorney Watson (05:19:24):

Did you take those items into evidence?

Detective Harrington (05:19:26):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:19:26):

And did you secure each one of those items in separate evidence bags?

Detective Harrington (05:19:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:19:32):

And how did you do that, sir?

Detective Harrington (05:19:37):

Just secured basically paper bags out of my police cruiser and put the items into those bags.

Attorney Watson (05:19:50):

Okay. And did you don gloves when you touched those items?

Detective Harrington (05:19:52):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:19:53):

And did you secure each of those items in a separate bag?

Detective Harrington (05:19:57):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:19:58):

And did you label those items?

Detective Harrington (05:20:00):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:20:02):

Now, I'll show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit 13. This is marked as a full exhibit as well. Do you recognize that item, sir?

Detective Harrington (05:20:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:20:17):

And is your evidence tag on that item?

Detective Harrington (05:20:20):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:20:20):

And did you create that evidence tag?

Detective Harrington (05:20:22):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:20:22):

Okay. And what does that evidence tag indicate that is in State's Exhibit 13?

Detective Harrington (05:20:28):

It's a one gray hooded sweatshirt with Tidy Services LLC graphic on front with blood-like substance.

Attorney Watson (05:20:34):

Did you bag and tag that item when you seized it from at the Bristol Hospital?

Detective Harrington (05:20:40):

Yes. I mean, this tag wasn't created there, but it was created later on.

Attorney Watson (05:20:45):

Was the sweatshirt placed into this bag at the Bristol Hospital?

Detective Harrington (05:20:47):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:20:48):

And when you got the sweatshirt back to the troop, did you create this evidence label?

Detective Harrington (05:20:52):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:20:57):

May I have one moment? So what I'm going to ask you to do with the Court's permission is I'm going to give you a pair of scissors. And I'd ask you to place some gloves on if you could.

(05:21:15)
Here you go, Detective.

(05:21:18)
I'll just ask you to remove that evidence. Cut that evidence seal, please.

Judge Pelosi (05:21:22):

[inaudible 05:21:27]

Attorney Watson (05:21:56):

And could you just remove that item? Okay. And is that the sweatshirt that you seized as evidence?

Detective Harrington (05:22:17):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:22:18):

Can you just fold that up and please place it back in the bag, sir? Now I'm going to show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit 14, and it's also a full exhibit. Sit down, sir.

(05:22:48)
I'm going to need you to put another pair of gloves on, a different pair. I'll take these. Do I have any permission to keep walking through?

Judge Pelosi (05:23:05):

Of course.

Attorney Watson (05:23:17):

Thank you. Looking at State's Exhibit 14, what is indicated on that evidence sticker?

Detective Harrington (05:23:21):

One pair of white Nike Dri-FIT socks.

Attorney Watson (05:23:24):

And were those articles of clothing that you seized that were on the photo, which was State's Exhibit 12?

Detective Harrington (05:23:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:23:32):

And did you bag those items while you were at the hospital?

Detective Harrington (05:23:35):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:23:36):

And did you later create the evidence tag that is on that bag when you were at the trooper?

Detective Harrington (05:23:43):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:23:44):

And is your initials or name on that evidence tag?

Detective Harrington (05:23:47):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:23:47):

I'm going to ask you to cut that open, please.

(05:23:49)
With the Court's permission, may we remove those two items that are in there, Your Honor?

Judge Pelosi (05:24:13):

Yes. He has standing permission.

Attorney Watson (05:24:15):

Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (05:24:16):

This is not objected to, correct?

Martin Minella (05:24:17):

No objection.

Judge Pelosi (05:24:17):

All right.

Attorney Watson (05:24:24):

And are there two socks in that bag, sir?

Detective Harrington (05:24:26):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:24:27):

And what type of socks are they?

Detective Harrington (05:24:29):

They're Nike Dri-FIT socks, color white.

Attorney Watson (05:24:32):

And in looking at those socks, can you discern which is a left sock and which is a right sock?

Detective Harrington (05:24:37):

It's hard to tell.

Attorney Watson (05:24:57):

Okay. All right. In looking at-

Judge Pelosi (05:25:07):

That was his answer. Sorry, go ahead.

Detective Harrington (05:25:08):

It's hard to tell.

Attorney Watson (05:25:09):

That's fine. In looking at both of those socks, is there an indicated wear pattern on the heel of either of those socks?

Detective Harrington (05:25:19):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:25:20):

Okay. And could you hold that one sock up? And what do you notice about that?

Detective Harrington (05:25:27):

The heel is more worn.

Attorney Watson (05:25:29):

And is there ripping in that area, sir?

Detective Harrington (05:25:43):

And this one has ripping.

Attorney Watson (05:25:45):

Okay. And can you place those back into the bag, please?

Speaker X (05:25:48):

[inaudible 05:25:49]

Attorney Watson (05:25:56):

You may sit down.

(05:25:59)
So I'm going to show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit 15. It's also a full exhibit. Take these, and with that, and if you could put the pair of gloves on again please, sir. Looking at State's Exhibit 15, can you tell us what that item is, please?

Detective Harrington (05:26:27):

One tan cowboy boot, size 8-1/2, left foot.

Attorney Watson (05:26:31):

And was that seized from the Bristol Hospital at that time you were there?

Detective Harrington (05:26:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:26:35):

Okay. And did you create that evidence label?

Detective Harrington (05:26:37):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:26:38):

And is your identification on that evidence label?

Detective Harrington (05:26:40):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:26:41):

Again, with the Court's permission, I'm going to ask that you unseal that exhibit. And can you remove the item, please?

(05:27:03)
And is that the cowboy boot that you seized as evidence on that day?

Detective Harrington (05:27:07):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:27:08):

Now, in looking at that cowboy boot, is that a left or a right boot?

Detective Harrington (05:27:12):

Left boot.

Attorney Watson (05:27:13):

And was there a right boot at the Bristol Hospital?

Detective Harrington (05:27:18):

No.

Attorney Watson (05:27:18):

Now, looking at the heel of that boot, sir, are there any obvious signs of a drag mark or wear on the heel of that boot?

Detective Harrington (05:27:27):

Yes, it is worn.

Attorney Watson (05:27:29):

Okay. And can you show that to the jury, please?

Judge Pelosi (05:27:33):

All right. Where is he pointing to, because I can't see?

Attorney Watson (05:27:35):

He's pointing to on the heel area of the boot, the sole of the boot.

Judge Pelosi (05:27:41):

A drag mark you stated, or is that your testimony?

Detective Harrington (05:27:44):

It's worn.

Judge Pelosi (05:27:45):

Worn. Okay.

Attorney Watson (05:27:45):

Can you place that back in the bag please, sir?

Judge Pelosi (05:27:49):

Can you see that, Attorney Minnella?

Martin Minella (05:27:50):

Yes, Your Honor.

Attorney Watson (05:27:50):

You want this?

Martin Minella (05:28:04):

Yeah, that's fine. No problem.

Attorney Watson (05:28:11):

While you were at Bristol Hospital, did members of your unit receive a consent to seize Sophie's cell phone?

Detective Harrington (05:28:22):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:28:23):

And was it seized as part of this investigation?

Detective Harrington (05:28:25):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:28:26):

And as part of your duties that day, did you take Sophie's cell phone into evidence?

Detective Harrington (05:28:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:28:31):

And did you bag and tag Sophie's cell phone?

Detective Harrington (05:28:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:28:35):

And do you recall what type of cell phone you took into evidence?

Detective Harrington (05:28:38):

It was an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a purple case.

Attorney Watson (05:28:42):

Okay. And did you take that cell phone back to the Western District Major Crime?

Detective Harrington (05:28:48):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:28:51):

Now, to your knowledge, as part of this investigation, were the contents of that cell phone extracted in this case?

Detective Harrington (05:28:58):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:28:59):

And to your knowledge, after an arrest was made, was that cell phone returned to Sophie's parents, if you know?

Detective Harrington (05:29:07):

I'm not aware.

Attorney Watson (05:29:09):

Okay. Now, after you seized all those items of evidence from the Bristol Hospital, what, if anything, did you do with all of them?

Detective Harrington (05:29:17):

After I seized them?

Attorney Watson (05:29:17):

Yes.

Detective Harrington (05:29:18):

I placed them in my cruiser and transported them to Troop L.

Attorney Watson (05:29:23):

Okay. When you transported those items of evidence to Troop L, did you store them somewhere?

Detective Harrington (05:29:28):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:29:28):

Where'd you store them, sir?

Detective Harrington (05:29:29):

In Western District Major Crime Evidence.

Attorney Watson (05:29:31):

Okay. And is that a secured vault?

Detective Harrington (05:29:34):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:29:35):

And do you need written notification in order to go into that vault? Is a log kept when someone enters the vault?

Detective Harrington (05:29:45):

Yes. Yes, sir.

Attorney Watson (05:29:46):

Thank you. May I have one moment?

Judge Pelosi (05:29:48):

Take your time.

Attorney Watson (05:29:51):

Nothing further. Thank you, Your Honor.

Martin Minella (05:29:53):

Just a few questions.

Detective Harrington (05:29:54):

Yes, sir.

Martin Minella (05:29:56):

How long have you been with Major Crime?

Detective Harrington (05:30:02):

I believe January 2022.

Martin Minella (05:30:05):

Till this day, were you with Major Crime?

Detective Harrington (05:30:09):

I'm assigned to the ... As a task force officer with the FBI to their Violent Crime Task Force.

Martin Minella (05:30:16):

Are you in the Narcotics Division?

Detective Harrington (05:30:18):

It's Violent Crimes Against Children Task Force.

Martin Minella (05:30:22):

And you seized these clothes. Do you have any training in forensics?

Detective Harrington (05:30:31):

I've been to some classes that talk about forensics.

Martin Minella (05:30:34):

Can you tell the jury if you know what a pattern recognition expert is?

Detective Harrington (05:30:42):

I've heard of it. I'm not aware of what-

Martin Minella (05:30:44):

Pardon me?

Detective Harrington (05:30:45):

I'm not aware of what that is.

Martin Minella (05:30:45):

You're not aware? Do you know what that means?

Detective Harrington (05:30:45):

Yeah, I've heard of it.

Martin Minella (05:30:45):

Pattern recognition.

Detective Harrington (05:30:52):

What kind of patterns? I'm not ...

Martin Minella (05:30:54):

All right. So let's say you have a case, and there's a case that where the clothes are run over, and you have the car in your possession, correct? Just assume you have the car in your possession, okay?

(05:31:11)
And you can take the pattern off a tire and look at clothes, and a pattern recognition expert can tell you that those clothes were run over by a vehicle that you had in your possession. Do you understand that?

Detective Harrington (05:31:29):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:31:30):

Did you ever hear of that before?

Detective Harrington (05:31:34):

I'm sure I've heard of it, but I can't speak to it. I'm not a pattern recognition expert. I've never spoken to one.

Martin Minella (05:31:42):

So now that you know what they do, does Connecticut State Police, you have a state lab, forensic lab, is that correct?

Detective Harrington (05:31:52):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:31:52):

Where's that located?

Detective Harrington (05:31:56):

Colony Street in Meriden.

Martin Minella (05:31:58):

In Meriden. Have you ever been there?

Detective Harrington (05:31:59):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:32:00):

Have you ever had training in forensics?

Detective Harrington (05:32:05):

I'm sure in the academy I had some evidence training.

Martin Minella (05:32:08):

You, personally, had training in forensics?

Detective Harrington (05:32:09):

No.

Martin Minella (05:32:13):

And you're with Major Crime?

Detective Harrington (05:32:14):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:32:15):

You were with Major Crime. And it's your testimony you never had any training in forensics. Is that your testimony?

Detective Harrington (05:32:23):

I've been to some trainings, like a New Jersey homicide conference where it'd be like a one-day training on forensics. But I've never been to a specific forensic class.

Martin Minella (05:32:34):

That's all the training you had is one day you went to the conference?

Detective Harrington (05:32:36):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:32:39):

So you seized these clothes, correct?

Detective Harrington (05:32:41):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:32:41):

All right. What is your other involvement with this case?

Detective Harrington (05:32:41):

I was tasked to do a few-

Martin Minella (05:32:41):

Do you know if the Connecticut State Police seized or alleged cars?

Attorney Watson (05:32:54):

I'm sorry, Your Honor. May the witness actually answer the question-

Judge Pelosi (05:32:56):

Yeah, let him answer the first question.

Attorney Watson (05:32:57):

... before another question is indicated?

Judge Pelosi (05:33:00):

Let him answer the question. Okay?

(05:33:04)
Rephrase that question that you just asked about previous to the car.

Martin Minella (05:33:07):

Pardon?

Judge Pelosi (05:33:08):

You asked the question previous to the one about seizing his automobile vehicle.

Martin Minella (05:33:13):

I'll withdraw that.

Judge Pelosi (05:33:13):

Okay.

Martin Minella (05:33:18):

What part did you have in this investigation besides seizing her clothes?

Detective Harrington (05:33:25):

I was involved with a few different interviews. I was also involved with neighborhood canvass.

Martin Minella (05:33:33):

Were you ever involved in the accident reconstruction of this particular case?

Detective Harrington (05:33:41):

No.

Martin Minella (05:33:42):

Do you know what C.A.R.S. is as far as the state police is concerned? Have you ever heard of C.A.R.S.?

Detective Harrington (05:33:48):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:33:50):

Can you explain to the jury what C.A.R.S. is?

Detective Harrington (05:33:54):

So basically any type of major motor vehicle accident that would involve a fatality or serious injury, they would be called out, and they have this special training where they do different analysis of the scene.

Martin Minella (05:34:09):

And in layman's terms, they analyze the scene of a major accident and decide, they do an examination of the old scene of the vehicle involve any forensic material.

Attorney Watson (05:34:27):

Beyond the scope.

Judge Pelosi (05:34:29):

I'll allow that. Overruled.

Martin Minella (05:34:33):

So C.A.R.S. does-

Judge Pelosi (05:34:35):

Well, let him answer the question.

Martin Minella (05:34:35):

Yep.

Judge Pelosi (05:34:36):

All right.

Detective Harrington (05:34:39):

Yes.

Judge Pelosi (05:34:39):

Okay.

Martin Minella (05:34:42):

And are you familiar with a trooper or a detective named Spencer Bronson?

Detective Harrington (05:34:52):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:34:53):

And who is he?

Detective Harrington (05:34:56):

He was also assigned at Troop B, so that's how I know him. But I believe at the time he was assigned to C.A.R.S.

Martin Minella (05:35:04):

He was assigned to C.A.R.S., and his job is to do an accident reconstruction of major accidents like this.

Attorney Watson (05:35:18):

That's beyond the scope. I don't know how he knows what Trooper Brown did.

Martin Minella (05:35:19):

He knows he's a member of C.A.R.S. He's a member of the same department he is at Troop L, and C.A.R.S. does accident reconstruction.

Judge Pelosi (05:35:30):

Okay. But how is that relevant at this point with this witness?

Martin Minella (05:35:33):

With this witness, he's worked on this case. Let me rephrase it this way.

(05:35:41)
Have you looked at the accident reconstruction of this case that the Connecticut State Police performed?

Attorney Watson (05:35:46):

Relevance.

Judge Pelosi (05:35:46):

What's the relevance? What is the relevance, Attorney Minnella?

Martin Minella (05:35:55):

The relevance is he's part of the investigation. He's seizing clothes. He's taking interviews. Is it irrelevant if he looks at the accident reconstruction done by his own department, Your Honor?

Judge Pelosi (05:36:09):

That calls for a "Yes" or "No." Did you look at the report?

Detective Harrington (05:36:12):

I did not.

Judge Pelosi (05:36:13):

Okay.

Martin Minella (05:36:16):

Do you know who Sergeant DeCicco is?

Detective Harrington (05:36:16):

Yes.

Martin Minella (05:36:23):

And I'll ask you one more time. Do you know what a pattern recognition expert is?

Attorney Watson (05:36:27):

Asked and answered.

Judge Pelosi (05:36:28):

It has been, and I believe he says, "I'm not sure what that means. Never spoke to one."

Martin Minella (05:36:35):

Okay.

Judge Pelosi (05:36:35):

Sustained.

Martin Minella (05:36:37):

That's it. Thank you.

Judge Pelosi (05:36:38):

All right. Any redirect?

Attorney Watson (05:36:43):

No, thank you.

Judge Pelosi (05:36:43):

All right. Thank you, Detective. I appreciate it.

Speaker X (05:36:46):

[inaudible 05:36:47]

Judge Pelosi (05:36:47):

Nope, nope. This one straight back.

Martin Minella (05:36:50):

[inaudible 05:36:51]

Speaker X (05:36:52):

Yes, sir.

Judge Pelosi (05:36:55):

All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take our afternoon recess. It's almost 3:30. We'll be back around 3:45. Again, at this point, don't discuss the case with anyone else. Please abide by the rules of juror conduct I told you about at the beginning of the case. Notebooks on the chair, and enjoy your break.

Speaker 13 (05:52:36):

The court is now back in session. [inaudible 05:52:37].

The Court (05:52:37):

Okay, everybody. Have a seat.

Speaker 13 (05:52:37):

[inaudible 05:52:37].

The Court (05:52:40):

Again, this next witness, is this relative to the text message, Attorney Watson?

Attorney Watson (05:52:44):

No, Your Honor.

The Court (05:52:45):

No? Okay, just let me know, because I want to put something on the record when that witness comes.

Speaker 14 (05:52:49):

I understand this defense counsel is withdrawing its objection.

The Court (05:52:51):

I do, but I just still want to put that on the record.

Attorney Watson (05:52:53):

It'll be after this witness, and this witness will be briefed when the state's done.

The Court (05:52:56):

All right. So the next witness, there was some discussion in chambers last week relative to a text message-

Speaker 14 (05:53:06):

Yes, Your Honor.

The Court (05:53:07):

... allegedly sent by Sophie R. to a friend. And there was going to be an objection based on the content of that statement.

Attorney Minella (05:53:20):

We withdrew that. We met this morning and-

The Court (05:53:22):

You're going to withdraw that? Because the state was offering another hearsay exception.

Attorney Minella (05:53:25):

Yes.

The Court (05:53:26):

You were going to object, but now you're not going to object?

Attorney Minella (05:53:28):

No.

The Court (05:53:28):

Okay. That's [inaudible 05:53:31].

Speaker 14 (05:53:31):

I have the exhibit redacted to have the hearsay responses removed with the exception of the three that we have agreed to.

The Court (05:53:37):

Thank you.

Attorney Minella (05:53:41):

Also, Your Honor, we have no objection to a number of the exhibits that are going to go in now.

The Court (05:53:46):

Thank you.

Attorney Minella (05:53:46):

Individually, correct?

The Court (05:53:50):

All right, let's get the jury.

Attorney Minella (05:53:50):

[inaudible 05:54:04] my notes. I put on my fucking suit. I was afraid I was going to split the fucking pants. [inaudible 05:54:44]

Speaker 15 (05:53:50):

[inaudible 05:54:59].

Attorney Minella (05:53:50):

I definitely came here to do that. Defendant will stipulate all jurors and alternates are questioned, Your Honor. [inaudible 05:55:26].

Attorney Watson (05:55:26):

The state will do the same, Your Honor. Thank you.

The Court (05:55:28):

Thank you. All right, ladies and gentlemen, have a seat. I hope you enjoyed your break. Make yourself comfortable.

Attorney Watson (05:55:35):

The state-

The Court (05:55:36):

The state is going to call their next witness.

Attorney Watson (05:55:37):

Yes, we'll call Detective Tyler Bastos.

Attorney Minella (05:55:39):

[inaudible 05:55:48].

Speaker 15 (05:55:49):

I know I had some.

Attorney Minella (05:55:50):

Of course you did.

The Court (05:55:50):

Detective, again.

Attorney Minella (05:55:50):

[inaudible 05:56:05].

Tyler Bastos (05:56:08):

The second time is the charm, Your Honor.

The Court (05:56:09):

[inaudible 05:56:12] Raise your right hand.

Speaker 16 (05:56:12):

Raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear or solemnly and sincerely affirm, as the case may be, that the evidence you show here concerning the case now in question shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God, upon penalty of perjury?

Tyler Bastos (05:56:20):

I do.

Speaker 16 (05:56:22):

And please state your full name, spelling your last name.

Tyler Bastos (05:56:24):

Tyler Bastos, B-A-S-T-O-S.

Speaker 16 (05:56:27):

And please also state for the record your place of business and business address.

Tyler Bastos (05:56:30):

I work at Troop L, Litchfield, at 452-B Bantam Road, Litchfield, Connecticut.

Speaker 16 (05:56:36):

Thank you.

The Court (05:56:36):

Thank you, Detective. Have a seat.

Tyler Bastos (05:56:39):

Thank you.

Attorney Watson (05:56:41):

And previous to this witness testifying, Your Honor, we do have an agreement with the defense for the submission of two exhibits that the witness will be testifying, that those will be marked as full.

The Court (05:56:49):

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Attorney Minella (05:56:51):

And Your Honor, we have no objection.

The Court (05:56:52):

I appreciate that. Thank you.

Attorney Watson (05:56:55):

Sir, when'd you become a Connecticut State Trooper?

Tyler Bastos (05:56:57):

In March of 2020.

Attorney Watson (05:57:00):

And what type of training did you receive in order to become one?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:02):

A six-month academy training with multiple criminal investigation classes and accident investigation classes.

Attorney Watson (05:57:08):

And when you began your career as a Connecticut State Trooper, what was your first assignment?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:12):

I was patrol out of Troop B in North Canaan.

Attorney Watson (05:57:14):

And what are the duties of a patrol officer?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:17):

Respond to day-to-day calls for service, accidents, larcenies, so on and so forth.

Attorney Watson (05:57:21):

And how long were you assigned to that position?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:23):

Approximately two years.

Attorney Watson (05:57:25):

And what assignment did you take after that?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:27):

I was a detective with Western District Major Crime.

Attorney Watson (05:57:30):

Okay, and how did you become a detective?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:32):

Applied for a test, sat through an oral interview, and eventually got into the unit.

Attorney Watson (05:57:37):

And when did you begin as a detective with Western District Major Crime?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:42):

August of 2022.

Attorney Watson (05:57:44):

And what does Western District Major Crime do?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:47):

We do lengthy criminal investigations, and anything that's really asked of us, but typically, the investigations are lengthier in time.

Attorney Watson (05:57:53):

And are you currently assigned to that unit now?

Tyler Bastos (05:57:55):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:57:56):

Now, as part of Western District Major Crime, have you had the occasion to investigate cases involving the death of someone?

Tyler Bastos (05:58:02):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:58:03):

And how many times have you had the occasion to do that, sir?

Tyler Bastos (05:58:06):

Multiple times. Most of the cases end up with that one.

Attorney Watson (05:58:10):

Okay. Were you assigned to Western District Major Crime on May 21st of 2023?

Tyler Bastos (05:58:14):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:58:15):

Now, with respect to your assignment that day with Western District Major Crime, were you called in to assist in an investigation involving the death of a female?

Tyler Bastos (05:58:24):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:58:25):

Now, I'll show you what's been marked as State's Exhibit 1. It should populate on the screen that's in front of you or the screen that's behind my left shoulder. Do you see the name that's written on that exhibit, sir?

Tyler Bastos (05:58:40):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:58:43):

And is that the name, or is the first name of that person, the investigation that you were doing?

Tyler Bastos (05:58:48):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:58:49):

Okay. And for the remainder of your testimony, if you need to refer to that person, I'm going to ask that you refer to them as Sophie.

Tyler Bastos (05:58:55):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:58:55):

Okay? Now, on 5/21 of '23, where were you first dispatched to be in that investigation?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:02):

I was dispatched to Bristol Hospital.

Attorney Watson (05:59:04):

And what other members of Western District Major Crime went with you to the Bristol Hospital?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:08):

Detective Slaby and Detective Harrington.

Attorney Watson (05:59:11):

And when your unit arrived at the Bristol Hospital, did members of your unit speak with the mother and father of Sophie?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:59:18):

And who from your unit spoke with the mother and father of Sophie?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:21):

Myself, Detective Slaby, and Detective Harrington.

Attorney Watson (05:59:26):

And when you spoke with them, did you ask them if Sophie had a cell phone?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:59:32):

And did either of her parents have her cell phone with them?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:36):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:59:39):

And who had Sophie's cell phone?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:41):

Lynn.

Attorney Watson (05:59:42):

Okay. And if you need to refer to them, I would give you the same instruction, to refer to them as their first names and not their last, okay?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:49):

Okay.

Attorney Watson (05:59:50):

And did Lynn provide you with the passcode for Sophie's cell phone?

Tyler Bastos (05:59:53):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (05:59:54):

And when you spoke with Lynn and Scott, did either of them provide you with access to Sophie's cell phone?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:00):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:00:01):

And did you view information on that phone in the presence of Lynn and Scott?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:04):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:00:05):

Now, as part of this investigation into this matter, did you ask Lynn and Scott if you could have Sophie's cell phone taken into evidence?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:12):

Yes.

‍

Attorney Watson (06:00:13):

And did they agree to that?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:14):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:00:15):

And who from your unit took Sophie's cell phone into evidence?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:19):

I took it from Lynn, and Detective Harrington took it from there, to transport.

Attorney Watson (06:00:24):

Now, as part of your conversation with Sophie's parents, did you learn where Sophie was that evening and some of the people she was with?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:31):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:00:32):

And as a result of the conversations you had with Lynn and Scott while at the Bristol Hospital, did you learn who was with Sophie Ringquist when she was injured?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:42):

Yes.

The Court (06:00:42):

Strike that last name.

Attorney Watson (06:00:43):

Or Sophie, excuse me, when she was injured.

Tyler Bastos (06:00:45):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:00:45):

And who was that?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:47):

At the time, her boyfriend, Cooper Ouellette.

Attorney Watson (06:00:50):

As a result of the conversation, did you learn who brought Sophie to her house after she was injured?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:00:57):

And who was that person?

Tyler Bastos (06:00:58):

That was Cooper.

Attorney Watson (06:01:00):

And did you learn the type or make of the vehicle that Cooper Ouellette was driving when he dropped Sophie off at her house?

Tyler Bastos (06:01:06):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:01:07):

And did you provide that... Now, as part of this investigation into this matter, did the Connecticut State Police secure a search and seizure warrant for the truck Cooper Ouellette was driving on May 20th of 2023?

Tyler Bastos (06:01:20):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:01:21):

Now, after you finished speaking with both Lynn and Scott, did you take any steps to document any injuries that Sophie had on her?

Tyler Bastos (06:01:30):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:01:30):

And how did you do that, sir?

Tyler Bastos (06:01:32):

My assigned digital phone, my camera.

Attorney Watson (06:01:35):

Camera?

Tyler Bastos (06:01:35):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:01:36):

Okay. And approximately how many photos did you take?

Tyler Bastos (06:01:38):

About 15.

Attorney Watson (06:01:39):

And did you go to the room where Sophie was located in order to take those photographs?

Tyler Bastos (06:01:43):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:01:45):

Now, I'll show you what's in front of you, what's been marked State's Exhibit 16 and 17. They're both full exhibits. I'm going to ask you to turn them over so that you can see them yourself.

Tyler Bastos (06:01:55):

Now?

Attorney Watson (06:01:57):

Yes. Do those photos fairly and accurately... Are two of those photos two of the photos that you took while Sophie was in the hospital?

Tyler Bastos (06:02:12):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:02:13):

And do they fairly and accurately depict the injuries that you observed?

Tyler Bastos (06:02:16):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:02:18):

At this point, Your Honor, I'd ask that we publish those two photos to the jury via digital evidence.

The Court (06:02:24):

Any objection? No objection?

Attorney Minella (06:02:26):

No, Your Honor. We have agreed.

The Court (06:02:27):

All right. You may.

Attorney Watson (06:02:35):

May we begin with 16? Did you take this photo in the hospital room?

Tyler Bastos (06:02:37):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:02:38):

And is that a headshot of the injuries that you observed on Sophie while you were at the hospital?

Tyler Bastos (06:02:43):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:02:43):

Okay. And can we go to State's Exhibit 17, please? And did you take this photo as well?

Tyler Bastos (06:02:51):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:02:52):

And what does this photo depict?

Tyler Bastos (06:02:54):

The left side of Sophie's face, with the injuries, with scale.

Attorney Watson (06:02:59):

Okay. And when you say "with scale," what do you mean, sir?

Tyler Bastos (06:03:03):

The scale on the side of her face, so that's the sticky scale we use for photographs, to document.

Attorney Watson (06:03:07):

Now, I'm pointing to the center of the photograph, and it looks like what is depicted as a ruler. Is that correct, sir?

Tyler Bastos (06:03:12):

Correct.

Attorney Watson (06:03:12):

And is that the scale you were referring to?

Tyler Bastos (06:03:12):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:03:15):

And did you place that scale on that item that is attached to Sophie-

Tyler Bastos (06:03:20):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:03:20):

... before you took that photograph?

Tyler Bastos (06:03:22):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:03:23):

Now, after photographs were taken, was the office of the chief medical examiner alerted as it pertains to Sophie?

Tyler Bastos (06:03:29):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:03:30):

And was Sophie transported to the office of the chief medical examiner from the Bristol Hospital in order to have an autopsy performed?

Tyler Bastos (06:03:36):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:03:50):

Can we have one moment? And were you present when that autopsy was conducted/.

Tyler Bastos (06:03:53):

I was.

Attorney Watson (06:03:54):

And did you take photographs as well?

Tyler Bastos (06:03:56):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:03:56):

And approximately how many photographs did you take?

Tyler Bastos (06:03:59):

I don't recall. I'd have to look. It was quite a few.

Attorney Watson (06:04:02):

Okay. Would you say it was greater than 15?

Tyler Bastos (06:04:05):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:04:05):

All right. Thank you, sir. And Your Honor, with the court's permission, we are going to recall this witness at a later time, pertaining to other investigative matters that he did. He is aware of-

The Court (06:04:18):

He's on the subpoena?

Attorney Watson (06:04:18):

Yes, and he is aware that he should not discuss this matter with anyone else.

The Court (06:04:24):

All right. You want to be heard on that?

Attorney Minella (06:04:25):

No, Your Honor.

The Court (06:04:26):

All right. Cross?

Attorney Minella (06:04:30):

Just a couple questions, Officer. Do you know who Spencer Branson is, Detective Spencer Branson?

Tyler Bastos (06:04:38):

Spencer Bronson, yes.

Attorney Minella (06:04:40):

And what does he do for the Connecticut State Police?

Tyler Bastos (06:04:43):

Currently or at the time of the investigation?

Attorney Minella (06:04:45):

At the time of this incident.

Tyler Bastos (06:04:46):

He worked for our CARS unit, so our accident reconstruction team.

Attorney Minella (06:04:49):

And CARS unit does accident reconstruction, you said?

Attorney Watson (06:04:53):

It's beyond the scope.

The Court (06:04:57):

I mean, I want to give you some leeway, Attorney Minella. I don't know how... It is beyond the scope, but how is it relevant? He didn't do the CARS investigation.

Attorney Minella (06:05:08):

He was part of the investigative team. I just asked him if he knew Spencer Branson and what he did. Do you know what he did in this investigation?

Attorney Watson (06:05:21):

I'm sorry, Your Honor, I have a pending objection for the question he asked.

The Court (06:05:24):

I'm going to allow. I'll give you a little leeway.

Attorney Minella (06:05:28):

Fine. Thank you, Your Honor.

The Court (06:05:28):

All right.

Attorney Minella (06:05:29):

Do you know, can you tell the jury, what Spencer Bronson does for CARS?

Tyler Bastos (06:05:38):

I can't accurately say what he does. I'm not in that unit. I'm not specialized in that unit.

Attorney Minella (06:05:42):

Pardon me?

Tyler Bastos (06:05:43):

I'm not specialized in our accidents team, so I cannot speak on what he knows and does.

Attorney Minella (06:05:46):

Not what he knows. He's an accident reconstruction-ist, isn't he? For the State Police?

Tyler Bastos (06:05:53):

He was, correct.

Attorney Minella (06:05:54):

He was? And he was during this particular time we're talking about?

Tyler Bastos (06:05:59):

Correct.

Attorney Minella (06:06:00):

Okay. Thank you.

The Court (06:06:03):

Okay. Anything else?

Attorney Watson (06:06:03):

No thank you.

The Court (06:06:05):

All right, so Detective Bastos, you're going to be recalled, so you're ordered by the court not to discuss your testimony with other officers and other individuals, anybody at this point, okay?

Tyler Bastos (06:06:15):

Okay.

The Court (06:06:15):

I appreciate that.

Tyler Bastos (06:06:16):

Thank you.

The Court (06:06:17):

I'll take those exhibits. Thanks.

Attorney Watson (06:06:23):

Can I be excused to retrieve the next witness?

The Court (06:06:24):

Yes.

Attorney Watson (06:06:25):

Thank you.

Attorney Clifton (06:06:25):

Judge, could we just have a brief recess before the next witness?

The Court (06:06:40):

This witness?

Attorney Clifton (06:06:41):

Yes.

The Court (06:06:45):

All right. Well, approach. Yeah, just a quick exit right here. We'll come right back. Notebooks on the chairs. Again, at this point, no discussing the case with anybody, each other. We'll be right with you, okay? It's going to be...

Speaker X (06:07:09):

[inaudible 06:11:50].

The Court (06:11:54):

Have a seat, everybody. Thank you. All right, ready for the jury, Attorney Clifton, Attorney Minella?

Attorney Clifton (06:11:55):

Yes, Your Honor.

The Court (06:11:58):

Yep?

Attorney Minella (06:12:01):

[inaudible 06:12:01] two witnesses. [inaudible 06:12:02].

Speaker X (06:12:04):

Attorney's asking a question.

The Court (06:12:05):

Are you ready for the next witness?

Attorney Minella (06:12:06):

Yes, Your Honor.

The Court (06:12:06):

Okay.

Speaker X (06:12:06):

There we go.

Attorney Minella (06:12:06):

My question is-

The Court (06:12:10):

All right, bring in the jury.

Attorney Minella (06:12:10):

[inaudible 06:12:21].

Speaker X (06:12:10):

I'll blame you for that.

(06:12:10)
I think met Jamie.

(06:12:10)
Yep, she's [inaudible 06:13:06].

Attorney Minella (06:13:40):

Defendant will stipulate juries and alternates are present, Your Honor.

The Court (06:13:40):

Attorney Minella has stipulated the presence of the jury.

Attorney Watson (06:13:40):

Yes, Your Honor.

The Court (06:13:41):

Have a seat, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. All right, Attorney Clifton?

Attorney Clifton (06:13:59):

State Witness calls Detective Robert Criscione.

Attorney Minella (06:14:00):

[inaudible 06:14:03].

Speaker X (06:14:03):

Robert-

Attorney David Clifton (06:14:00):

Robert Criscione. This guy right here.

Chris Pelosi (06:14:29):

All right Detective, can I have you raise your right hand please? Get you sworn in.

Clerk (06:14:32):

Do you solemnly swear or solemnly and sincerely affirm as the case may be that the evidence you shall give concerning the case now in question shall be the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God upon penalty of perjury?

Robert Criscione (06:14:41):

Yes, I do.

Clerk (06:14:41):

And please state your full name, spelling your last name.

Robert Criscione (06:14:43):

Robert Criscione, C-R-I-S-C-I-O-N-E.

Clerk (06:14:47):

And please also state for the record your place of business and business address.

Robert Criscione (06:14:51):

Yes. Western District Major Crime for State Police, 452 Bantam Road in [inaudible 06:14:57].

Clerk (06:14:57):

Thank you.

Chris Pelosi (06:14:57):

Thank you Detective. Have a seat.

(06:15:02)
[inaudible 06:15:02] the witness. Mr. [inaudible 06:15:04].

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:03):

Thank you, Your Honor. Good afternoon, sir.

Robert Criscione (06:15:05):

Yes, sir. Sorry.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:07):

Where do you currently work?

Robert Criscione (06:15:09):

For the Connecticut State Police in Western District Major Crime on the crime van.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:13):

And when did you begin working with the Connecticut State Police?

Robert Criscione (06:15:15):

In June of 2012.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:17):

Are you a certified police officer?

Robert Criscione (06:15:18):

Yes, I am.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:19):

How long have you been so certified?

Robert Criscione (06:15:21):

Since June of 2012.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:23):

And are there education requirements to maintain that certification?

Robert Criscione (06:15:27):

Yes, there is the post requirements annually and biannually.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:31):

And how many hours are you required to attend each year?

Robert Criscione (06:15:36):

I do not know off the top of my head.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:38):

Have you maintained your certification each year that you've been a police officer?

Robert Criscione (06:15:41):

Yes, I have.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:42):

What is your current assignment with the Connecticut State Police?

Robert Criscione (06:15:45):

Western District Major Crime on the crime van.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:48):

And how long have you been assigned to Western District Major Crimes crime Van?

Robert Criscione (06:15:53):

Since the spring of 2021.

Attorney David Clifton (06:15:57):

And during your time with the Western District Major Crimes Crime Van, have you received specialized training in cell phone extractions?

Robert Criscione (06:16:03):

Yes, I have.

Attorney David Clifton (06:16:04):

Can you briefly explain what a cell phone extraction is?

Robert Criscione (06:16:08):

Can you repeat the question?

Attorney David Clifton (06:16:08):

Sure. Can you briefly explain to the jury what a cell phone extraction is?

Robert Criscione (06:16:14):

A cell phone extraction is where you actually take the raw data that is contained within the phone, you make an exact copy of it. That raw data is then put into another software that will create a viewable copy that you could put up on a computer screen and the investigator can search through the content within there, such as for photos, videos, text messages, any web history, data location for GPS location in there, any deleted data, potentially hidden data.

Attorney David Clifton (06:16:56):

And have you conducted data extractions of cell phones in your current assignment?

Robert Criscione (06:16:59):

Yes, I have.

Attorney David Clifton (06:17:00):

About how many would you say?

Robert Criscione (06:17:02):

Probably a dozen or so a year at least.

Attorney David Clifton (06:17:06):

And you had mentioned that part of a cell phone extraction is to copy the data of a cell phone?

Robert Criscione (06:17:14):

That's correct.

Attorney David Clifton (06:17:17):

You mentioned putting it into a software program. What programs do you use at the Connecticut State Police Crime Lab?

Robert Criscione (06:17:22):

We currently use Cellebrite software.

Attorney David Clifton (06:17:25):

And what does Cellebrite software do to that raw data extraction?

Robert Criscione (06:17:29):

Cellebrite has two parts to it. The first is the initial data extraction, making a copy of it in the, it's called a UFED version. It's a universal forensic evidence device. That device will make an exact copy of the data that's on that phone when it is connected to that phone. And then it was loaded into a physical analyzer program and that physical analyzer program is what will actually create a viewable format for the investigator to search.

Attorney David Clifton (06:18:06):

And what type of file does that physical analyzer create?

Robert Criscione (06:18:10):

That physical analyzer creates a UFDR file. It's a universal forensic device report.

Attorney David Clifton (06:18:18):

And with that UFDR file, are investigators able to search the contents of that cell phone data?

Robert Criscione (06:18:24):

Yes, they are.

Attorney David Clifton (06:18:26):

Does that program organize the data into categories presented in that report?

Robert Criscione (06:18:30):

Yes, it does.

Attorney David Clifton (06:18:32):

And are there categories for phone call logs?

Robert Criscione (06:18:34):

Yes, there are.

Attorney David Clifton (06:18:35):

Are there categories for text messages?

Robert Criscione (06:18:37):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (06:18:38):

Are there categories for images and videos?

Robert Criscione (06:18:40):

Yes, there are.

Attorney David Clifton (06:18:43):

Does updating the software of Cellebrite allow for the presentation of additional data that's contained within those extractions?

Robert Criscione (06:18:51):

Yes, it does.

Attorney David Clifton (06:18:53):

As new phones enter the market, does it take time for the software to be able to recognize and analyze that data?

Robert Criscione (06:18:59):

Yes, it does.

Attorney David Clifton (06:19:01):

Is that another reason that the program continues to update?

Robert Criscione (06:19:04):

Yes, that's correct.

Attorney David Clifton (06:19:06):

And specifically, were you working in May of 2023 with Crime Van?

Robert Criscione (06:19:10):

Yes, I was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:19:12):

And if we could display State's Exhibit 1, please. There'll be something coming up on the screen in front of you. I just want to see if you recognize that. Do you recognize that person?

Robert Criscione (06:19:36):

Yes, I do.

Attorney David Clifton (06:19:37):

And were you part of the team that was investigating the death of Sophie?

Robert Criscione (06:19:41):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (06:19:42):

For the remainder of your testimony, if you reference that name, just refer to her as Sophie, okay?

Robert Criscione (06:19:45):

Yes, sir.

Attorney David Clifton (06:19:46):

Were you assigned to perform a data extraction of Sophie's cell phone?

Robert Criscione (06:19:52):

Yes, I was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:19:53):

And how did you conduct that extraction?

Robert Criscione (06:19:57):

I received the cell phone and I connected the cell phone to our Cellebrite UFED device and went through the prompts and created an advanced logical extraction on the device at that point in time. And then the raw data that was extracted from the phone was then put into the physical analyzer version of the software where I generated a report in that process.

Attorney David Clifton (06:20:24):

And did you provide that report to the investigative team?

Robert Criscione (06:20:27):

Yes, I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:20:34):

Did you log the data extraction from Sophie's cell phone into evidence at the Connecticut State Police?

Robert Criscione (06:20:39):

Yes, I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:20:40):

How many copies were made?

Robert Criscione (06:20:42):

There were three copies made.

Attorney David Clifton (06:20:43):

And what did you do with each copy?

Robert Criscione (06:20:45):

One copy was made for the investigator to use, one copy was submitted into evidence, and then the third copy was kept in our Western District Major Crime repository.

Attorney David Clifton (06:21:00):

And did you meet with Inspector Apostella and myself in our office on October 2nd of 2026?

Robert Criscione (06:21:05):

Yes, I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:21:06):

And did we request that you prepare certain reports from that data extraction at that time?

Robert Criscione (06:21:10):

Yes, you did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:21:12):

Were you able to fulfill the requests that we made of you on October 2nd of 2026 with the current UFDR file?

Robert Criscione (06:21:19):

No, I was not able to completely fulfill the requests for the call logs.

Attorney David Clifton (06:21:24):

And what data was not being presented?

Robert Criscione (06:21:26):

The date and time was not coming through on the calls that were made during that period.

Attorney David Clifton (06:21:31):

Were you able to correct that issue?

Robert Criscione (06:21:33):

Yes, I was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:21:34):

How did you do that?

Robert Criscione (06:21:35):

I used the original extracted raw data from May of 2023 extraction, and I entered that into the new updated physical analyzer version that we had at this point in time and generated a new report using the original extracted data, and that was able to produce the dates and times for the calls.

Attorney David Clifton (06:21:59):

So the updated software was able to present that data?

Robert Criscione (06:22:02):

Yes, it was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:22:09):

And did the updated version allow for the presentation of that time data into the phone log report?

Robert Criscione (06:22:16):

Yes, it did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:22:18):

And did the updated version able... Were you able to provide a text report of all the text messages from that cell phone on the date of May 20th of 2023?

Robert Criscione (06:22:28):

I was able to produce the text messages. There was just the content missing for the senders and receivers.

Attorney David Clifton (06:22:34):

And when you say content was missing, how was the current report able to delineate who sent and who received what information was used?

Robert Criscione (06:22:44):

The only thing it had for sender and receiver was the phone number to and the phone number from.

Attorney David Clifton (06:22:49):

And were you-

Robert Criscione (06:22:49):

It didn't have names.

Attorney David Clifton (06:22:51):

Were you able to access the contact list in that cell phone report?

Robert Criscione (06:22:55):

Yes, I was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:22:56):

And were you able to compare the contents of the contact list to the phone numbers from the report?

Robert Criscione (06:23:02):

Yes, I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:23:03):

And what, if anything, did you do with those two data sets?

Robert Criscione (06:23:06):

I created an Excel spreadsheet and physically searched the phone number for each sender and receiver and entered that into the spreadsheet for the text messages.

Attorney David Clifton (06:23:19):

And did you prepare a digital file which had both of those data sets included?

Robert Criscione (06:23:25):

Yes, I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:23:28):

At the request of my office, did you generate a report that shows the call log, the history of phone calls from the cell phone of Sophie on the evening of May 20th of 2023?

Robert Criscione (06:23:37):

Yes, I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:23:39):

At the request of my office, did you generate a report that shows a video that was recorded from the cell phone camera of Sophie's cell phone at approximately 11:24 PM on the evening of May 20th, 2023?

Robert Criscione (06:23:50):

Yes, I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:23:52):

Earlier today in my office, did you bring a flash drive to review?

Robert Criscione (06:23:57):

Yes, I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:23:57):

What was on the contents of that flash drive?

Robert Criscione (06:24:00):

There was the reports that I was requested to make.

Attorney David Clifton (06:24:04):

And did I then add a redacted version of that text log that we were talking about?

Robert Criscione (06:24:10):

Yes, you did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:24:12):

Did you review the entirety of that flash drive?

Robert Criscione (06:24:14):

I did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:24:14):

Was there any file on that flash drive that you did not personally recognize?

Robert Criscione (06:24:18):

No.

Attorney David Clifton (06:24:23):

Referring to the phone log, were you able to review the phone log that was contained in that flash drive?

Robert Criscione (06:24:29):

Yes, I was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:24:30):

And was that a fair and accurate copy of the phone calls made and received by Sophie's phone on the night of May 20th, 2023?

Robert Criscione (06:24:37):

Yes, it was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:24:38):

And was that file in the same or substantially the same condition as when you queried it from the Cellebrite extraction of Sophie's phone?

Robert Criscione (06:24:45):

Yes, it was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:24:47):

Did the flash drive also contain that text log that we talked about, with the exception of those redactions?

Robert Criscione (06:24:54):

Yes, it did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:24:56):

And aside from those redactions, was that text log a fair and accurate copy of the text messages made and received by Sophie's phone on the night of May 20th, 2023?

Robert Criscione (06:25:06):

Yes, it was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:25:07):

Aside from the redactions, was that file in the same or substantially the same condition as when you created it?

Robert Criscione (06:25:12):

Yes, it was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:25:15):

Did that flash drive also contain a report of the video file that was recorded by the camera of Sophie's cell phone at 11:24 PM on May 20th of 2023?

Robert Criscione (06:25:24):

Yes, it did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:25:25):

And was that report a fair and accurate copy of that file?

Robert Criscione (06:25:30):

Yes.

Attorney David Clifton (06:25:31):

And did it have all the relevant data of creation of that file?

Robert Criscione (06:25:35):

Yes, it did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:25:36):

And was that video report in the same or substantially the same condition as when you queried it from the Cellebrite extraction?

Robert Criscione (06:25:42):

Yes, it was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:25:42):

And did that flash drive also contain the actual video file we are referencing that was recorded by the camera at 11:24 PM on May 20th, 2023?

Robert Criscione (06:25:55):

Yes, it did.

Attorney David Clifton (06:25:56):

And was that video in the same or substantially the same condition as when it was first recorded?

Robert Criscione (06:26:00):

Yes, it was.

Attorney David Clifton (06:26:07):

And do you have that flash drive with you today?

Robert Criscione (06:26:09):

I do.

Attorney David Clifton (06:26:10):

Have you had it with you the entire time since you reviewed it in my office?

Robert Criscione (06:26:12):

I have.

Attorney David Clifton (06:26:13):

Can I ask the clerk to mark it as State's Exhibit 18, please?

Chris Pelosi (06:26:14):

You may.

Attorney David Clifton (06:26:48):

State's Exhibit 18. Is that that self same flash drive?

Robert Criscione (06:26:51):

Yes, it is.

Attorney David Clifton (06:26:52):

I'm going to offer it as a full exhibit, Judge.

Attorney Manello (06:26:56):

No objection.

Chris Pelosi (06:26:56):

All right. Exhibit 18. It's full.

Attorney David Clifton (06:27:11):

And for the record, Judge, what we've done is labeled internal folders in that flash drive, Exhibit 18A, Exhibit 18B, Exhibit 18C, and Exhibit 18D.

Chris Pelosi (06:27:25):

All right.

Attorney David Clifton (06:27:26):

For Madam Clerk's purposes, as it relates to the contents of 18A's folder, it's a phone call log we were just talking about. 18B is the text messages. 18C is the report of the video. 18D is the video itself. And I'm going to ask to publish 18D.

Chris Pelosi (06:27:52):

You may.

Video: Speaker 1 (06:27:52):

Out.

Attorney David Clifton (06:28:16):

Thank you. I have nothing further.

Chris Pelosi (06:28:33):

Did you say you're all set or you need a moment?

Attorney David Clifton (06:28:34):

Nothing further.

Chris Pelosi (06:28:34):

Okay. Thank you. Attorney Manello?

Attorney Manello (06:28:51):

No, Your Honor. No questions.

Chris Pelosi (06:28:52):

All right. Detective, thank you very much. Please don't discuss your testimony with anybody else, okay?

Attorney David Clifton (06:28:56):

Thanks.

Chris Pelosi (06:28:57):

Have a good day.

Attorney David Clifton (06:29:12):

Your Honor, we are on our current schedule that we had discussed. I do have another witness that is here. We had slated that individual to testify tomorrow. We can start with that witness today if the court sees fit.

Chris Pelosi (06:29:23):

Yeah, let's start.

Attorney David Clifton (06:29:24):

We will not finish.

Chris Pelosi (06:29:25):

That's okay.

Attorney David Clifton (06:29:26):

Thank you.

Chris Pelosi (06:29:26):

Let's start with that witness today.

Attorney David Clifton (06:29:27):

The State will call Sergeant Jamie Pearson to the stand.

(06:29:31)
Thank you. How long would the court like you to go?

Chris Pelosi (06:30:56):

I'll look at the clock and ask if it's a good time to stop at that point. All right.

Attorney David Clifton (06:32:24):

All right. Thank you.

(06:32:28)
Okay. My apologies, Your Honor. We had called to have this witness be here and we gave the witness a call around 3:00 or 3:30. She was on another call for her work. She's apparently 15 minutes away from this location.

Chris Pelosi (06:32:47):

All right. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we're cutting it out a little early today. Okay. Next witness is not available as you heard. So ladies and gentlemen, today we're going to adjourn the trial for the day. Remember that you must obey the rules of juror conduct. So you're going to go home to people tonight who are going to be curious about the case and about the trial. Remember that you have taken an oath that obligates you not to talk to anyone about the trial or its issues after you have rendered a verdict. That means you cannot talk to members of your family about it and there are no exceptions.

(06:33:27)
Though your oath should be reason enough to obey this instruction, let me suggest to you a further practical reason. If you were to violate your oath and discuss the case at home or with others, they may give you ideas or details for some similar circumstances, and then you would have the problem when you start your deliberations of trying to sort out which information you heard in the courtroom and what you heard somewhere else. Jurors often find deciding issues to be difficult enough without an added problem of trying to filter out information that they obtained improperly or that was not part of the trial. Again, please don't talk to anyone about the case nor let anyone talk to you about it. Honor the oath you have taken. Likewise, you should not seek any outside information or evidence being presented at trial. Don't visit any location that's been mentioned. Don't look anything up, do any research or perform any investigation, including on the internet. Remember that your obligation will be to decide the case on the basis of the evidence that is presented in this courtroom and only on that evidence.

(06:34:29)
If there's any media coverage of this case, likewise, you are not to read it or watch it or to listen to it. Again, ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy your night. We will see you here 10 o'clock sharp, okay?

‍

Topics:
No items found.
Hungry For More?

Luckily for you, we deliver. Subscribe to our blog today.

Thank You for Subscribing!

A confirmation email is on it’s way to your inbox.

Share this post

Copyright Disclaimer

Under Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.

Subscribe to The Rev Blog

Sign up to get Rev content delivered straight to your inbox.